Oct 25 2010I'm Still Skeptical: "Time Traveler" With Cell Phone Spotted In 1928 Charlie Chaplin Flick

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Allegedly a guy was watching Charlie Chaplin's 1928 silent film 'The Circus' and spotted a woman in a scene walking by talking on a cell phone. I watched the footage myself, and I'm skeptical to say the least. Guy is a crazy conspiracy-theorist to say a little more. Guy should be locked in a secret government facility and violated by aliens to say too much.

This short film is about a piece of footage I (George Clarke) found behind the scenes in Charlie Chaplins film 'The Circus'. Attending the premiere at Manns Chinese Theatre in Hollywood, CA - the scene shows a large woman dressed in black with a hat hiding most of her face, with what can only be described as a mobile phone device - talking as she walks alone.


I have studied this film for over a year now - showing it to over 100 people and at a film festival, yet no-one can give any explanation as to what she is doing.

My only theory - as well as many others - is simple... a time traveler on a mobile phone. See for yourself and feel free to leave a comment on your own explanation or thoughts about it.

Jesus, Sherlock Holmes is probably spinning in his grave. Check it -- I've got a much simpler (and correcter) explanation, and it goes like this: women, by nature, are talkers. And -- given nobody else to talk to, will even talk to themselves. This woman's probably having a make-believe convo with a shoe or makeup case. BOOM, case closed. Now, meet me at the bar for some real time-traveling (sorry, future trips only).

Hit the jump for two videos, the first of which has guy babbling about it for awhile, the second of which cuts straight to the chase.


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"Can you hear me now? Good."

First!
Hey, aint that your mum?

yea that is prettty weird

she probably be less obvious if she had blue-tooth...so that means she would have to be between 1995 - 2004...

Also looks like a flip phone...1999 -2004

bam i know who it is...the lady that stole my phone in 2002...I GOT YOU NOW THIEF!!!

awesome

Looks like a shoe to me..

Who the hell would he be talking to? Unless he is the Doctor . . .

Who would she even be talking to? I'm sure there were a lot of cellphone towers and satellites in 1928. . .

She could just be scratching her cheek...

She's obviously just forgot her earphones and is listening to her Ipod touch!
Bam case closed

What? They didn't have crazy people back then?

And I bet when this guy hears hoofbeats he thinks there is a zebra heading his way.

The guys over at planet-flipside.com already came up with a perfect explanation, including pics. 1920's hearing aid. No kidding, check it out: http://planet-flipside.com/index.php/paranormallink/60-timetraveller

about a year ago there was a lady on tv that had a picture of her relative from the twenties talking on what appeared to be a cell phone. If I can find any more info about this I'll post it.

Cell phones do (would) not work without the communication satellites to receive and relay the signal. Trust me I've tried to use my phone in the 40s and I couldn't get any bars at all!

Yeah because there were "cell-towers/satellites" in 1928 used for cell phones...

its all bullshit. some dude has way to much time on his hands and everybody knows it

look like the Penguin went back in time to kill Batmans grandparents and kill him.
or some other evil plot

What if we are actually looking at an alien! Think about it - we say that it is a woman, but she is wearing man's clothing. Maybe the alien was confused as to the correct gender attire to wear to a premiere of this magnitude and was calling her/him/its friend on the spaceship.

That's also why the phone is so big - it has to send the signal a long way up into the atmosphere.. duh.

Time Travel left alone, how the hell could anyone *use* a cell phone in the '20's?

If it was a phone it would mean there had to be cell towers, so unless the time traveler went back in time and set up towers everywhere she or he couldn't use a cell phone......unless....well unless they are an alien and there is a mother ship that has cell phone service. Hope they don't have AT&T, would cost a fortune back then.

This is kind of a no duh, dudes, but you're saying this person had the ability to hurl their entire fat legged body through time but they can't send a tiny cell signal through time?

Just sayin', you're "they didn't have cell-towers! whaaaaa, cell towers!" theories are full of crap.

This guy looks like Vin Diesel.

Well one thing's for sure...

She's not using AT&T.

Do some more investigating, it appears to be a type of hearing aid used back then, that resembles the shape of a cell phone

does nobody see the freaking Zebra with a saddle?!

that's way cooler IMO

This can be disproved rather easily.
The cell phone cannot establish a connection with a cell tower in 1928, because there were no cell towers then.
In addition, radio signals do NOT propagate in the 4th dimension.
"But how the hell can you know that, Jon?"
I'll tell you how.

Take two walkie-talkies, for instance. If you turn only one on and transmit a message, and then turn the other one on 30 seconds later, you will not receive the message.
Having trouble thinking 4-dimensionally?
Think of it like this:
Turn one radio on on 5th avenue, and transmit a message to the other radio on 12th avenue. You will receive the massage.

In conclusion, there were no cell transceivers in 1928 so she couldn't have been talking to somebody there, and she couldn't have been talking to somebody in the relative future because radio signals exist only in the three spatial dimensions.

Isn't it possible that this is just a 1920s version of a cell phone. This was the era of Nikolai Tesla after all.

Would it not make more sense that she is talking to an alien ship in space? A normal cell phone would not work back then without towers and everything else we have now that gives the phone a signal. I mean if you are going for crazy theories I think aliens makes a lot more sense.

It does look like she is talking to her hand and its a neat make you wonder piece of film.

It looks like there's nothing in her hand.

Simple. The woman is hiding from the camera.

If someone travelled back to 1928 with a cellphone, WHO WOULD THEY BE TALKING TO.

"Hey hey, this is great! I'm the only person in 1928 with a cell phone! Oh wait..."

And all of that's regardless of the fact they wouldn't have a cell phone tower to connect to even...

"Hey hey, this is great! I'm the only person in 1928 with a cell phone! Can't seem to get a signal for some reason...."

My bet is she's holding an ear horn. Old lady, hard of hearing, talking to someone just out of the camera's frame - probably got a palm -sized ear horn held up to the side of her head.

Mystery solved.

It's a radio.

My husband said it looks like she is listening to a transistor radio.. and that was how he listened to them back in the day. Sooo maybe she only traveled back in time from the 1950s

Wow you people are unbelievable. If you would zoom in on her at the very end you would see that it is her fingers. Unless the top of her cell phone can split in two. Obviously she was scratching her head.

I don't know what it is, and no one can explain what it is, therefore, this is a time traveler with a cell phone.

THE LOGIC IS IRREFUTABLE.

@26 Dude! That is obviously a horse painted to be a zebra. Congrats, You've stumbled onto the real conspiracy here!

I can read the lips. It's saying: "Marty,I'm stuck in 1928, and I think someone's filming me"

Simpler reason = The guy infront of her (Husband) bitch slapped her across the cheek.
But sure why not, time travel. (If she [/they] had time travel, dont you think we'd have moved away from "mobile phones" by then?)

A time traveler would have bluetooth or better.

knew it. knew it.

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I blame Tesla xO

My Take; Because of the time we live in, our VERY FIRST thought is of course gonna be cell phone. We've been conditioned to associate "one hand to the face" with cell phone. Thats why its so hard for anyone to come up with anything differant. Heres what you should do, show this to your grandparents, matter of fact anyone old enough as to where cell phones are still a mystery to them. I GUARANTEE there first response will not be cell phone. (Oh and dont ask them "Gram Gram, does it look like shes talking into a cell phone?")

Ohh and NEW FLASH, cell phones do not operate from satelites. . .Unless they are satelite phones, and those things look like bricks! if that were the case we woulod have a shuttle launch every week and there wouldnt be this big "nation wide coverage" race. LOOK IT UP.

it's John Titor in drag

She's old. And everyone knows old people hate cell phones BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIGURE THEM OUT. Clearly she's talking to that horse's rear end. Old people are known to do this frequently.

no cell towers.

if that is a phone then who the hell is he talking to? he is the only one with a phone. unless there is MORE THAN ONE TIME TRAVELER OMG! quick every one watch old movies and look 4 anything strange.

so lets say she is a time traveler and she did have a cell phone who would she be talking to? shes the only one in the world with a cell phone

God, the no cell tower commenter makes no sense. If she have traveled back in time, if you accept that, is it that big of a stretch to imagine that she have a talking device that can go trought time..May be she come from a civilisation or an era where time travel is comon thing and she went all the way back to an age that nobody care, 1928, and she is going like: "Omg, you can't beleive where I am. I'm in the medevial time and I'm going to see a 2d dimensional movie. Yeah, you heard me right, a movie that is only projected on one flat screen. And you know the worse part, there is no color. Omg, this is so retarded!! And there is an animal on the street. A real live one! Omg, so gross!!"
And by the way, she's not old because in the day she come from, everybody is living so long, she's merley an adolescent. And she's going to her friend like this: "OMG, everybody is so young here, there all kid. Nobody is over a hundred. I can't beleive a society can work like this. That's no wonder everything is so retarded here."

But, no, you all go like stupid "No cell tower... who she would be talking to... I can't use my imagination... I need someone to feed what I should think about..."

This is me in the video. I came from the year 2038 and I was talking to my superiors. We don't need these so called "cell Towers" where I come from.

EXTREME CLOSE UP!

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I'm sure if as a society you had the technological and the engineering know how to send matter through time you would have the ability to send a signal through time as well and be significantly advanced to have the device to do this embedded in the phone as well.

It could be a phone, but it also could be ANYTHING else held up to her face

this fella here has WAY TOO MUCH time on his hands.
clearly the old lady was a cyborg. she (it) was covering her
(it's) face because the layer of artificial skin that made up it's
'ear' had fallen off during an earlier conflict that would've made
THE TERMINATOR 'proud'

all you bitches are hilarious....
just had to let yall know that, anyways.....

if its a fucking time traveler im sure phone reception is no problem considering they fucking TIME TRAVELED!

That John Titor comment is the shiz!

But if you read any of his BBS comments, time travel in drag is NOT yet possible, but perhaps....perhaps....one day we will be able to bring the non fat Tim Curry to 2012. Scientists are working around the clock, rest assured. The Russians will not beat us this time either.

Just like with religion...when something is impossible to understand, make up a silly solution and spread it around as fact!

Leave the fucking time travelers alone, that get to do whatever the fuck they want.

HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY.
The obvious solution is that she's an 'alien' with a transmitter.

@13 seems to be right. Peep this from the "Hearing Aid" wikipedia entry:

"Body worn aids

This was the first type of hearing aid invented by Harvey Fletcher while working at Bell Laboratories.[3] Thanks to developments in technology they are now rarely used.[citation needed] These aids consist of a case, an earmold, and a cord. The case contains the amplifier components. The case is about the size of a pack of playing cards and is worn in the pocket or on a belt. The ear mold is connected to the case via a cord. Because of use of vacuum tubes[citation needed], body worn aids can provide loud amplification."

My crazy take on this (and yes I have ample free time tonight) is that the "deck of cards" case is for the microphone/speaker as the ear piece and the tube amps are two of three separate components. Since smaller, earpiece sized speakers probably didn't exist back then, most sound conduction through something as narrow as an "earpiece" was most likely a hollow tube (see talking tubes in early 20th century Victorian houses as old school intercoms).

So it's likely that the case was internally split into two sealed compartments: the microphone side and the speaker side. Like a McDLT, this kept the signals separate to avoid feedback. This also may have allowed a reduction of cross talk from going into the speaker boxxx, and thus the hear tube to the ear piece.

As a result, anybody getting used to this device would be holding the case close to their mouth to test the signal strength or to make sure their batteries weren't dead/dying.

Lastly, a closer look at the lip movement seems to indicate a more rhythmic talking pattern like "hello hello" (Back then it would have been "hallo hallo"). The "smiling" may also suggest because when the woman turned, she may have been looking directly in the sun and squinting. Check the shadows.

Where's Daisy to tells us the shadows are all wrong when we need her?

Oh man, as the bourbon wore off writing that ginormous missive, I realized it said the case held the vacuum tubes...FAIL on my part.

However - I think it may still work as the tubes would still be powering a mic and speaker inside it. In the picture #13 posted from the site, those long sticks would have been battery packs to power the vacuum tubes.

Cellphones are old technology for time travelers.

I feel like if they had the technology to time travel, they would probably have some way of communication that doesn't require cell phone towers.

Oh poo. It's an obvious Star Treck TOS communicator.

Art Bell used to invite people from the future to call in. Those were always fun nights.

its a 1920's hearing aid

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people are stupid

Al! Whay havent I leaped yet?!

It's The Doctor, he fixed the phone with his sonic screwdriver. Tis quite obvious really

http://hearing.siemens.com/sg/10-about-us/01-our-history/milestones.jsp?year=1924

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That looks like Steve Jobs.

Hoax, I totally do not believe that is a woman.

O brother. look at the direction of the sun. she's just shading her eyes, and talking to the guy walking ahead of her. occam's razor, hello?

The cool part is that its the 25th anniversary of the first time travel ever! (Einstein the dog traveled 1 minute in to the future - Hilldale CA, USA)

Idiots, if someone had the technology to travel back and time you really think they'd need cell phone towers in order to get a signal to communicate. Also I guess they still haven't found a cure for obesity in the future damn you slow metabolism.

Could also be holding an "ear trumpet"... one of those little cone shaped things you see in old cartoons... here's an old illustration of someone using one:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2663/4046084589_2ecf0418cf_o.jpg

Too bad it's a silent film. Otherwise you know she'd be saying, "My husband's so stupid. Blah blah blah, period, heavy flow, snow shoes, blah blah blah, other stuff women say, blah blah blah."

Am I the only one who came immediately when I thought of a world where women can't be heard?

this man is on crack.

So, my question to those who have tried to explain this is- why does she have to be talking to someone? If she were a time traveler, wouldn't she know that no one could hear her? Could she just be pretending to be using a cell phone because she KNEW she was walking into a Charlie Chaplin movie and wanted to fuck with the people who noticed this later on? And is it just me or has the thought not crossed anyone's mind that maybe, just maybe, the credits could be brought up from this movie and it could seen who is listed as "big woman in black coat talking suspiciously into palm of hand"? Or is that out of the question?
And to Brian- I wish it were for men and women. Fuckin' loudmouths-everyone, regardless sex... SHUT UP, WE'RE SHARING AN ELEVATOR FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.

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I bet she's talking on a JIIITTERBUG! (cue generic swing music, the music of the old) 'Now you can even screw up the classics you grew up with using the new insert-me-in-yesteryears'-hit-flick application and meander through time at your own leisure!'

Time Travel! There's an app for that!

Great Scott! I got it...why didn't I see it before...It's DOC BROWN!

@Code you got da marketing skillz to pay da billz

well shes not talking on a new iPhone 4 cause if she had her fat hands wrapped round it like that there'd be no signal at all. Time Traveler or not !

@67 Omg, totally agree! I used to love those segments!

@80 This hefty ol' gal is not actually in the movie, she appears in one of the DVD extras ... if you take a look, the sign on the window behind her is a promotional poster for the movie.

I'm not really getting all the LOL OMG NO CELL TOWERS comments. Don't be so quick to assume that she/he traveled back from our present day. The time traveler could be from hundreds of years in our future, or like mentioned by others, possibly from another planet entirely. I mean the feet she/he are sporting are bigger than the man in front of her. She could be from a galaxy where time-travelin'-pear-shaped-big-footed-androgynous-folks are the norm.

Also as far as the hearing aid explanation goes, she looks to be holding just one piece (the piece that is supposed to go into a pocket not up to the ear) and I don't see any wires or additional things hanging off of it.

We may never know but it is fun to speculate.

looks like she is holding ehr glasses...but because he is so much into it...and gets fame for speculating the whole time traveling thing... I presume he doesn't accept that explanation... will stick for soemthing more logical like cellphoens, and time traveling...

How about the fact she doesn't want to be on film so is hiding her face and probably talking to the cameraman, saying 'don't film me'

Someone may have already said this but there were too many comments....didn't read any of 'em....

When she turns you can tell her hand is empty. She's scratching her head.

Zomg moving on...

Btw....more than likely she's talking to the guy in front of her.

Just want to point out, that the video is fake! or that the lady on the "Cellphone" is a ghoast. please watch the video closely and notice how you can see the background through here expecially during the closeups. Not sure this was mentioned earlier but... ya.

Scotty beam me up this planet sucks!

@92 Fake? Its a Charlie Chaplin film.

Anyone notice she moves her hand like over the top of the object to cover it, if you watch it realllyyy closely at the top of her hand, you can see something white, but then her fingers cover it.

It's Nina Sharp...

http://crotchgroin.info/galleries/64/nina-sharp.jpg

Kinda reminds of the ST:VOY episode where they go back to 1996 Earth (cuz that's when the episode first aired) where Janeway and company were trying to be discrete talking on their Starfleet communicators. No bluetooth then so they look even more crazy talking to themselves.

This scene was not in the original film, it was cut and added to the dvd as a deleted scene. I suspect someone digitally added the "time traveler" as a prank/hoax during the digital restoration process and the edited version got added to the dvd.

95. Aaron.

You know people star to see things even when there is nothing there, just feed them with something, an idea, a mystery, ... anything and let their imagination do the rest.

Then people star looking for I-phones and Cellphone like devices.

Because for time travelers, or aliens, is very easy to develop technology to use the 4th or 5 th dimension, but a hands-free device must be REALLY that difficult..

That's no cell phone... It's a space station

To be fair, I think it just looks like she's shy of the camera and is covering her face. It doesn't even really look like she's holding anything in her hand.

Here's my theory. It's not a cellphone, it's a communication device that transcends time, no towers needed. She's actually communicating with the future letting them know she passed the camera and the conspiracy can start in 2010. The future, that gets all it's relevant data on our history from geekologie.com will find the footage and track her location in time. They're really good at this. She was beamed back to her time as she got out of frame, so no one was able to question why she was holding her ear and talking to herself. They'd lobotomize you for that back then.

Looks like a pair of pliers to me.
It's not her lips you see in the freeze-frame, it's the handles of the pliers.
You see the head of the pliers covering her ear.

Schizophrenics did not come out of no where in the 90's. You hear a voice, you would think it comes from your ear. TADA! this video can bite me

Has anyone stopped and thought about:
a. how is she getting reception in 1928?
and
b. Who would she be calling in 1928?

It does seem probable that it is a hearing aid rather than a wireless communication device. Perhaps she is adjusting her hearing aid by talking into it prior to the premier.

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Where the hell is Daisy on this one???She should be all over it...or did I miss her in the sea of post?

If you look closely you can see it a Windows 7 Phone.

@27

I don't know who told you about the free massages for ham radio enthusiasts downtown, but you've successfully let the cat out of the bag.

Way to ruin my free massage you dick.

Talking on a cell phone...through time? Or, did she bring the satellite and/or cell phone towers back in time with her?

Fail.

You guys all missed the obvious. Charlie Chaplin came to the future to make the movie with superior technology and then took it back to the 20's to profit.

I am certain that He/She had read the rare original Chaplin 'Silver Streak' script. The script re-surfaced and was made into a movie in the 1970's.

http://www.qwipster.net/silverstreak.jpg

Such a shame the Zebra was cut from the 70's version!

Don't you guys watch 'Sanctuary' ?

It's a Farnsworth Communication Device!

Looks like Danny DeVito dressed as Penguin.

Even if it's a time traveller, who are they talking to on a cell phone? That's great reception.

It's a walkie talkie. Haven't you ever seen Back to the Future? duh. ;)

they wouldnt be talking on it anyway. there were no towers then. duh.

Why is everyone focused on the device being a cell phone...why cant it be a communication device and leave it at that? Perhaps he/she is talking to another time traver nearby or perhaps using the device to call through time? maybe its ziggy from Quantum leap on the ohter end

It's impressing how many people use the same stupid argument that there are no cell towers/satellites back in the 20's.. it could be a kind of radio that doesn't require a tower and both people are just far away but on the same time/dimension - or maybe a device that can communicate through time, if you can time-travel everything is possible, just go to the future and bring back some advanced technology...

“In the 20's, who are you gonna call? Ghostbusters?”

Yes, that is a time traveler, but that's definitely not a cell phone. It's a global talkie phone. They were invented around 2017 I believe and are powerful enough to transmit radio signals anywhere around the world. They also use frequency-hopping spread spectrum technology so GT phones basically eliminated "cell" phones. As for whom she is talking to, fellow time travelers. Time travelers almost always travel in groups for both safety and economical reasons. It is much more cost effective to timepool a large group rather than transporting them one at a time and a buddy system insures that no one gets hurt and no one gets left behind.

She's holding it wrong.

Ah...the old, tired Argument from Ignorance logical fallacy.

Saying "I don't know WHAT something is...because of that, I know EXACTLY what it is" is a common flaw in logical thinking, but that doesn't excuse the outright full-retard level of stupidity in this guy.

If (just saying if) this were a time traveler talking on some sort of communication device here is what I can think of. If a group of people (those who the person is talking to) had technology to time travel then they would also have technology to communicate without the need for satellites or cell towers. Also, what better way to get noticed or prove time travel than to do something like put yourself in an old film or some form of recorded history? Being an extra in a Chaplin film would be a brilliant idea.

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Frankly, if we are to believe in any of this, the most likely scenario is that this is an alien who is talking to the mothership that's orbiting the planet.

More likely is that it's a hearing device as others have already mentioned. Better than those big cone jiggers they used in the 1800s.

@105

only the 104 post before you...

maybe shes just protecting her face from the sun. if you look at the shadows there opposite of the direction her hand is.

maybe its hot or people did the hand thing where they cover there face so there not in pictures back then.

its silly to think that its a time traveller. the only time travel is forwards in time and then to the origin point. and i know time can be affected because of future events. but for a human to physically go back in time and have a cellphone? thats just crazy talk. right mr. spudruckers?

mr. spudruckers: meow.

It's like in that movie Stay Tuned.... amirite?

Wow I love the stupidity here.

1: If she really is camera shy and is just hiding her face, why would she stop in front of the camera while still in plain view?

2: No cell phone towers? Wouldnt it be completely believeable that if the future can invent time travel they would also be able to invent a simple way to communicate without the need of cell phone towers?

3: Who would she be calling in 1928? Dumbest question of them all, either 1 of 2 things she would be doing on that phone (if it was real, there is doubt present). 1, she could be communicating with someone from the future letting them know how her trip back in time is going, or 2, she could be communicating with an old ancestor of theirs trying to find out some family history (and dont read to far into the 2nd one).

4: A hearing aid? The most logical question, but I dont know many people who have hearing aids and talk to them while walking down the street, or at all for that matter, and if they were talking to it that would mean it might be acting up but if that's the case then why would they be smiling about it?

5: An added part to create a hoax? I don't believe someone would take film from a 1928 movie and add a part into it to stir up a hoax, that would be a waste of their time, only because it's a movie from 1928 so I dont believe people are flocking to the movie rental stores to get their hands on this amazing Blu-Ray DVD. Plus all the work that goes into making these DVD's, it never would have passed the final copy stage bc of how many people view it before they release it, any fabricated material would not have been allowed in the final copy.

6: She is talking to the man in front of her? and She is just scratching her head? That man obviously didnt seem interested in hearing anything she had to say. If she was scratching her head, why was she talking to herself, and who stops in the middle of a sidewalk just to scratch their head?

7: Could she just be pretending to be using a cell phone because she KNEW she was walking into a Charlie Chaplin movie and wanted to fuck with the people who noticed this later on? <--- Please dont ask questions ever again...Im sure if that was the case the future probably has rules and restrictions for time travel and since this footage has been brought to our attention in this day and age they would surely notice it in the future and either A: stop her from going back in time and doing that or B: whoever controls time travel would go back in time themselves and prevent the person from ever doing that bc it could compromise the integrity of their whole time travel company. I also believe the government would have a hand in the whole Time Machine thing considering if they didnt Hitler wouldve been killed wayyyyy before he executed anyone and George Bush never would have been president, MLK JR. never would have been shot, there would have been a curiously large amount of lottery winners, JFK never would have been shot, Lincoln never would have been killed, Osama wouldve died as an infant, Saddam never would have ruled, etc. etc. so I am sure something like that wouldve been prevented before we ever would have saw it if that's what you are really going to go with.

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Ah...good to see my mother still making headlines.

hey im sure its some kind of really old hearing aid :P

it's really Mary Poppins using her dark magic to travel throughout tyme. The person on the phone is her husband Cthulhu.

@Domesticshake - about #3, Why does she have to be communicating with someone in the future? I love how everyone automatically assumes that a time traveler absolutely must travel alone. Maybe she arrived in a 30 person time-traveling bus, all with future cell phones!

With regards to number 2, once again, everyone assumes that a time-traveler (with future technology of oh, I dunno, TIME TRAVEL?) would be restricted to 2010 technology of cell phones requiring cell towers to work.

While I don't actually believe this is a time traveler, the total lack of imagination from people is astounding.

However, there is a creepiness factor to it. First, if it is a hearing aid, why is no one in the frame talking to her, looking at her, or even noting her existence? Second, the facial expression as she turns towards the camera looks like an acknowledging smile in response to something amusing. Just... creepy.

how about adjusting her glasses?

Looks like she's holding a folded handkerchief to shield her face from the sun. Check out the shadow cast on her face at the still.

You know, like the guy in the video says, it's a *device.* There's no reason to assume that it's actually some specific technology that we would be familiar with. It could be an early two-way radio design. It could be something along the lines of a primitive walkie talkie. Maybe the lady was married to an inventor and was trying to help him test an invention or something.

The point is, even if this was some piece of anachronistic technology that shouldn't have been around in the 20s (and not just something stupid like an old lady scratching her ear while talking to someone off-camera, as it might very well be), there would still be a lot of plausible explanations for it outside of friggin' time travel. I mean, they had a motor vehicle in the dark ages and steam engines in ancient Greece; it just took forever for these things to get reinvented because no one had any practical use for them at the time so everyone viewed them as nothing more than fun gimmicks. This could have been an advanced invention that never took off, or maybe the inventor couldn't manage to get a patent or find a way to market it so everyone just kind of forgot about it. This kind of thing happens more often than you'd think.

In any case, this is an interesting find. But really, time travel?

http://www.hearingaidmuseum.com/gallery/Carbon/WesternElectric/info/westelect34a.htm

That is all.

There's something so funny about the idea that a civilization could be scientifically advanced enough to develop time travel, but was still using cell phones. It'd be like a fleet of invaders from outer space that can travel at the speed of light, but their most advanced weapon is a musket.

....or it's from the movie stay tuned and it's a remote control....

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WHOA

ok. im back. from the past.

so i checked out what happened with the lady.

shes holding her hat. it might have been windy. i was in a space golfer suit so id ont know but im pretty sure she was just holding her hat.

everyone stop with this time traveller stuff. thats just silly

*ZOZOZOZOZOZOZOZOZOOOOOM*

or maybe not. id ont know. i jsut want someone to think im funny.

Um there were no cellphone towers available to facilitate a phone call.... Unless it's some crazy ridiculous phone that could create it's own network...

Furthermore, I'd expect any such phone to be a neural implant by the time time travel is invented.

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@Hafeez
Crazy ridiculous phone that could create its own network? You mean like... a walkie-talkie? Really, I don't understand all these issues being raised about "who would she be talking to?" and "if it's a phone, where are the towers?" If we're going to humor the outlandish proposal that it could be a time traveler, all these trivial details can be easily resolved with just a bit of imagination.

The shape of the phone is a legitimate complaint. I'm not sure neural implant phones would *necessarily* come before time travel, but time travelers would definitely have something better than flip phones. Maybe some sort of ring or wristwatch or bracelet or something than doubles as a phone. Or for that matter, a hand implant. A chip in your thumb, for instance, would be less invasive than a chip in your brain, although a bit more limited in functionality.

@50: Yes, what you are saying makes perfect sense... also @134, you are using your noodle, too. In my opinion, she could be a time-traveler, but more likely it is some kind of inter-dimensional traveler...

That's terrible, it's going to/it must have already/it will cost the poor woman a fortune in roaming charges.

She's just blocking the sun from her frail face... simplest explanation is probably the most correct.

She is just kissing her black dildo.

It's a small portable crystal radio. Lots of people had them back then.

@89 That's my take on it as well.

It's pretty obvious that she if pulling up on her jacket collar to hide her face

looks like shes scratching her head to mee

It's probably this:

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-dictograph-acousticon-hearing-aid-ca

Dictograph Hearing aid from 1928.

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It looks like an ear trumpet to me. Its even hollowed out at the end. here is an online gallery showing what they looked like. http://www.phisick.com/a7et30.htm

She or he could have not been talking on a cell phone. There were no cell towers up. NO SIGNAL! This is a fake. FAKE

You are all fucking tards.

Anyone who had the technology to go back in time, most certainly wouldn't be such a fat pig...cuz in the future, were definitely gonna have a cure for fat and lazy. Or at least a law banning Dunkin Donuts and Fast Foods.

Man..you SOB's are making my hemmroids ache.

Ok when I started watching this I was ready to laugh at this dude.... But dammit if he didn't stumble onto a mystery.

Screw the future!!!! So basically we get the technology to travel in time and instead of fixing the economy or making it so Bush and Obama aren't President.... They go to Charlie Chaplin premieres?

What a bunch of dicks!

She is saying "ouch my ear hurts"...damn those ear infections

Maybe she TimeZaped one of those cell towers that look like trees, so no one would notice the cell towers.

But really, who talks on a phone? Why is she not texting or facetiming?! ...people from the 20's didnt talk..thats why the movies had no words!

Also, my horse is going to be a zebra for halloween...

Assuming she is a time traveler dressed completely out of place, we could also assume that she is using technology that is more advanced then what we currently have.

1. It could be direct communication to whatever vehicle she used to get here.
2. It could be a subspace communications device (Quantum Leap?)
3. It could be a bluetooth type device that you need to tap or hold to call.

It would be EASY to use your imagination to come up with something more creative than my answers and to see people claim it is "impossible" for a time traveler to use a cell phone because of some little fault in their logic is ridiculous. No towers...please we're talking time travel here.

The biggest problem I see is why, when trying to be conspicuous would this person walk right onto the set of a movie? Considering that this was a comedy and the type of silly comedies that Chaplin made it would be SAFEST to assume that this was just a crazy little add-in for an extra (I haven't seen the movie myself).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact

There are things found throughout the world that's much more out of place than this vid...

It just looks like she's covering up her face. She obviously the camera filming from a distance and felt weird about being filmed. You see her glance at the camera too.

wait wasnt the doctor once a fat guy?

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/broughttolife/objects/display.aspx?id=6713
Check it out
Hearing aid 1920-1930

It is clearly a man, which brings us to two possibilities.

It is a terminator sent from the future to kill Theonius Connor.

It is a man and he is known as The Doctor.

FFS! i think we get it....there are no cell phone towers in the 1920's! your all plugs

@57, I laughed so hard i couldn't see straight after I read your post.

I totally agree with number 19

BEAM ME UP SCOTY

This person is either is an alien or from our near future.

To me she looks like she's asking to be "beamed up" & be teleported back to the Mothership.

CASE IN POINT:

Look closely near the very end of her short walk she seems to become very vague and ghost like as she begins to dematerializes. Then she becomes somewhat transparent as she slowly seems to almost disappear.

Which is just like the teleportation process effect portrayed in the Star Trek
universe.

VERY EERIE & WEIRD INDEED

HELP

@127
good point, only skimmed through lol

Well, one should not be surprised at such far fetched ideas as are being posted on the web about this woman (?) and her hand covered device. Tesla demonstrated the power of a remote controlled model boat in the 1800's and wireless electricity in the same century by planting a light bulb in the ground and watching it light up outside several hundred yards from the source! However, with such fantastic possibilities abounding, let us be reasonable here folks. If she talking into a cell phone or is does she have a multiple personality disorder and talking into a piece of cardboard? Final answer: she probably ordered a Android OS phone from Amazon.com right before she turned on the flux capacitor and set course for a film premiere 1928 aboard the Mill.....Falcon!

1) I'm not sure that's a woman.

2) This was "found" previously unreleased footage right? Well lot's of 'fun with film editing' could have occurred between the find and the release.

3) Chaplin was an observational comedic genius. Radio existed. Telephone existed. Who is to say he didn't forsee and find humorous a future in which people couldn't leave their phones home. A woman gabbing into such a device while walking about town would seem to be high comedy in those days at least to Chaplin (perhaps?)

4) I believe in Einstein and Relativity. Therefore I believe that, particularly with the exponentially increasing power of technology, time travel of some form will occur, someday, but . . .

4a) Let's say a viable method of time travel is discovered 20 years from now. We know how big cell phones were in 1990 (enormous and heavy). The alleged 'cell phone' in the film looks on the large side by even today's standards. Isn't it likely that the 'cell phone' of 2030 will look far different than that of the Android's, iPhones and flip-style phones of today? Perhaps by 2030 it's just a hidden earpiece, powered by current and heat from the body.

4b) Let's say that is a 'cell phone' in the film. Who is she/he calling in via cell in 1928 with NO CELL TOWERS of any kind to route the call through? I believe the first analog based cell tower went live in Japan in 1969.

4b Part Deux) Again let's assume that is a cell phone from the future in the lost film . . . maybe the size of it isn't reflective of standard digital nano-based terrestrial cell phone technology of the time traveler's year of origin. Perhaps it's a larger "extra-stellular" model. That's right, remember you were here reading this when that term was coined. Unless I'm from the future, which I may well be.

4c) Back to semi-seriousness now. Why, of ALL the places in time to choose from, would this portly woman (whom I think is a man dressed as a woman) choose a Chaplin movie lot in 1928? I suppose if it were a time travel viability test, landing on a movie backlot in 1928 would be benign compared to, say, standing behind Woodrow Wilson in 1919 at Versailles.

My grandfather was an associate of Howard Hawkes. When I asked him about this occurence, he confided in me that this woman is actually J. Edgar Hoover back when he headed the Bureau of Investigation (the predecessor to the FBI). He suspected that Chaplin was a subversive radical who could single-handedly corrupt the American people into adopting the upcoming communist lifestyle through his endearing antics on the silver screen. He is obviously monitoring the premier to see which players on the global stage might be in attendance and communicating with his fellow agent heads with his primitve handheld radio receiver/transmitter.

#24 Funny, 25 I checked on those hearing devices and don't see how you would use them without someone beside you to hear or talk to...even is using for the deaf...the fact that she/he/it was talking does not figure out.

People...think outside the box..."cell phone"...how about "communication
device"... which puts this in a whole different realm. AND why did she stop before leaving the frame of the camera (which was not moving) to stay in the the shot and be seen talking..."time capsule" to let us know "TODAY" as we've been discovering more intensely since the summer...we are being communicated with?... Did you see the episode of Star Trek where the enterprise team visited earth back in a time period close to the 1920's/40's?
Hummmm...don't count anything out unless you can definitely verify. That "lady" looks like she could be trying to "fit in"...check out those big hands and feet. Can't figure out what nationality, very short and buddist like frame...very covered up. But stopped before leaving the frame...human like time capsule, yes we were here then! :o Can it be explained?...

I keep looking at that, got to move from this, very mysterious, psycho or not...why would she "think" to talk into it?... IS THE UNEDITED OF THIS FILM STILL EXIST? That's the thing...see how much of it is there, how long "it" stayed in the frame and read what it was saying...if possible. That would help a lot! Don't read alone or it may be too shocking! Who knows 1928 attire and what all she/he/it is wearing...what culture or if accurate for the time. I need answers! :l What ever it may be. Have you heard Coast to Coast's interview of the man "Stanley A. Furham" predicted the 10/13 New York Siting? 3-parts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ewWyyxaxH4

-- Very Interesting! He doesn't hesitate or waver. There's also a video interview on another site.

Allow me to put this debate to rest. You'll notice that the sun is shining from behind the camera, and the "individual" in question is wearing a large coat. It goes to reason that the coat would have a large collar as well. So, the person is holding said collar up to shade their face from the sun, and possibly because they don't feel like being on camera. The talking can be explained by old people being crazy and talking to themselves. BOOM! Done! No more talking. Ain't no cell phone, fools!

It looks like she may have a pair of gloves in her hand and maybe needed to adjust her hat... not a cell phone... or time travel!!!

Its an old style hearing aid. They were palm sized and you held them up to your ear. http://antiquescientifica.com/hearing_aid_London_dome_with_box_alone.jpg

WOW, GW, 180+ comments on one post! This could be your Spencer and Heidi man, ride the wave, ride the wave. Then ask for a raise!

Yep, it's a hearing device. Debunked.

http://hearing.siemens.com/sg/10-about-us/01-our-history/milestones.jsp?year=1924

Ladies used to keep a perfumed handkerchief in their sleeve and would place it close to their face to mask to the various odors they might encounter in the streets. (trash, animal scat, chamber pots, etc.)

I almost hate to divulge this but,..in 2012 when Obama is thrown out of the White House,.. conservatives will put in motion an operation that will ensure that an unqualified person will never again be voted into the office of president. Conservative politicians of all stripes will track down EVERYONE that voted for Obama and surgically alter them into fat ugly old women and transport them into the past where they will be relatively harmless and ineffectual - due to the lack of welfare checks and 'free' social services. They will however be furnished with free 'temporal-flux satellite phones' so that they can see what a great time we're having in the future - without them.

So,..if you don't want to become a crazy old hag wandering around 1928 Los Angeles whilst talking to yourself,...then you'd better vote wisely next time around. You've been warned.

@ 187

Mitchell's Law strikes again!!!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mitchell's%20Law

/asshat

@188: I'm impressed that there's a definition that describes you so accurately, good for you little fella! Hang in there.

It could be an ice pack. Could be a hearing aid(which would be doubtful). But let me ask you this? Who is she talking to into the device and laughing at?

How is she getting reception? Oh, from all those cell phone towers that they put up in 1927....thats right....

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Did anyone stop to think that satellites and cellphone towers were not invented then, so even if she had a cellphone, she couldn't use it to call anybody!!

@193

only 95% of the 192 posts before yours :)

Why do i keep hearing over and over and over "Time traveling might be possible.....but a cellphone THERES NO SUCH THING!" OBVIOUSLY IF THE PERSON IS A TIME TRAVELER THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO HAVE WIRELESS GODDAM PHONE! what the fuck, people?
How about this....if that person is a TIME TRAVELER......HOW DOES HE HAVE SHOES?!?!?! IMPOSSIBLE!

maybe it is a shell phone trying to hear the ocean.

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why isn't there any sound?

I think it's just meant to give the 1928 audience a laugh if they happen to notice it. "Hey did you notice the crazy lady talking on a telephone outside?"

That seems considerably more likely than an absent minded time traveler who got caught doing something futuristic by a 1928 film crew.

ha, the 'time travelorrr' is probably laughing at us right now!
but i have to agree, it is probably
A. TYPE OF VIDEO EDITING TECHNIQUE AKA a HOAX, but tht is crazy to just waste time and edit something soo small in a large crowd and have the camera focus on only the person ( thats how it seems to me when i watched the scene; zoomed out then zoomed closer then zoomed to person holding supposedly 'cellphone' and then following person), obviously, someone wanted to fuck with our minds, and the people or person editing the charlie chaplin deleted scene, is it? put it there, deleted scene part, i'd say, i dont know, cuz i've never seen the movie , or know what type of category they put the scene in, so i suppose i'll call it 'deleted scenes', but you understand .
B. THE ' TIME TRAVELER' most people would say, is really a time traveler, but why the hell would tht person use a cellphone or something better AKA bluetooth, god, people's minds are so little. when they could use waaay more advanced things. maybe it doesnt have to be a cellphone- doesnt have to be technology- it could be magic!. lol ok, so tht sounded surreal, but what IF? what IF they combined magic + technology? IDK. but YES, if this person really is a 'time traveler' it could be possible to use magic and what have you. i mean this person is a 'TIME TRAVELER' hello!. and i totally agree that the goverment has some type of involvement in the whole 'time traveling' comeon, when has the government NOT been around?!

BTW, i'd have to conclude that the supoosedly 'TIME TRAVELER' the person, is raaaaelly, CREEPY, the way that person looked at the camera and laughed, shit maan, the people or person who really did edit this did a greaaat job to fuck our minds up, well least to me. but whats EVEN CREEPIER would be if the person in the film is really real....and was starin at the film knowingly. lets hope scientists/ directors , what have you dissect the scene , if they give a shit, which i doubt.


HAAA, so in the end, like i said before the 'TIME TRAVELER' is a havin a goood ol laugh, i bet!. :)

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YES, YOU SHOULD BE SKEPTICAL!.

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In the days of silent films, deaf actors and deaf extras were employed because of their adept use of body language, facial expressions, hand gestures and mime. Even Charlie Chaplin learned sign language and acting techniques from Deaf people.

Chaplin did not move his lips in his silent films. He used gestures and expressions resembling those used by deaf persons.

So for all we know, it could have been a deaf movie extra listening to instructions from director Charlie Chaplin through a sound amplifier or hearing aid during that scene. Not a time traveler.

http://www.thomasreynolds.com/gr_chaplin.html

I think that she was cussing because her husband punched her, and she held a cold steak to her cheek.

Yey for a "modern and enlightened society" that can't even tell the difference between someone talking on a cell phone and an old lady with an arthritic condition trying to shade her eyes from the sun.

What type of a film maker is he, that does not have a pc to analyse the film.


Shhheeesh, was "battle of the bone" a softcore gay prono ?

seriously, this guy studies this fcking lame piece of footage for "over a year", shows it to a bunch of people at a film festival, and comes up with TIME TRAVELER over hearing aid?

SOMEBODYYY wants to believe. go talk to Mulder

Didnt the first modern flip phone come out in the early 2000's???? so it must be a time traveler!!! the flip phone is soo small. the info is all there!!!!

Everyone is saying "well shouldnt there be cell towers?"...clearly if this person has the technology to time travel they would probably have an alternative to cell towers. As to the video itself, its pretty wierd. Theres a million other things it could be, idk...pretty wierd.

its probably a tumor or medical deformaty that she is hiding/holding in which the directors or producers didnt notice and if they did the scene would've been deleted.

a natural deformalty or some sort.

All I got to say is: "LARGE HADRON COLLIDER". No, she wasn't scratching her head. her fingers barely moved! plus , back those days , people wouldn't of believed in cell phones, they do now , dont they ?!! one thing i'll put to you guys again: the "large hadron collider". which is based under ground in geneva, switzerland.it could open a black hole, it contains particules that travel at the speed of light. the scientists behind it are making it ten times bigger and hoping one there will be able to accomplish time travel. it doesn't matter when they accomplish time travel. if it can work a hundred years from now. the possibility of finding out how now , is large. "LARGE HADRON COLLIDER".

i dont believe its a cell phone cause some ppl r right there were no cell ph towers back then also did u consider the fact that is a lady dressed like any other person back in 1928 n older if she was a time traveler dont u think they would have sent someone younger back in the day to experiment the time traveling theory.... also the fact that she could have been holding something that MIGHT look like a cell ph and could have been talking to herself....

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