Jul 29 2008Windows Mojave: Vista In Disguise

Vista FTW!

ok, i say it's viral marketing. AKA fake video. Totally made up.
Microsoft: fail

well sure, vista runs well if you have 4 gigs of ram and a nice amd processor, but what about the sad people that bought a laptop that was designed to run XP like a charm, have 2gigs of ram, and are stuck with a pentium dual core? I still hate vista, I hate their damn security thing, i hate how microsoft hardly does anything to fix their problems and it's up to us to try and figure out solutions to their mistakes. Fck microsoft. fck it with a 10 foot pike.

Can The General really help me save on auto insurance?

ya give some one a new computer and sure he will say that is fast, that is why they made new computers.
Or do they make them slower these days...
FAIL

haha, it's funny how some people just don't get the whole "new OS" thing.

"Ugh! It can't run on my Pentium II, 256mb machine?!? But Windows 2000 runs awesome on it! I hate Microsoft. How dare they try to improve stuff that I don't own. They should be working on making my computer power itself with its own awesomeness!"

It's nice to finally get a nice balanced, unbiased appraisal of Vista :-)

(sarcasm for the slow kids)

NO...... vista is a load of SH**, no matter what advert they try to sell to us to promote it's still SH**.

second rate software...

I like vista.

Runs with fewer problems than xp even on my 2g dual-core centrino.
You know why?
Because i'm not a moron and know how to use a computer.

"Ugh! It can't run on my Pentium II, 256mb machine?!? But Windows 2000 runs awesome on it! I hate Microsoft. How dare they try to improve stuff that I don't own. They should be working on making my computer power itself with its own awesomeness!"

Exactly.

If those guys who said that was in charge things would never get any better.
IT'S CALLED PROGRESS!

Move with the times or stay stagnant but if you do shut up its your choice.

Macs are for fags but Vista does still suck. They promised sick ass gaming but they failed on that front. The rest is just prettiness that appeals to mac cock smokers.

seems like a good place for this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d85p7JZXNy8

Also, people who make character judgments based on OS choices are poop tubes.

The ones who hate Vista are the ones who hated Windows XP. I loves Vista Its a nice upgrade of Windows XP that doesn't crash on me at all , probably because i do not download crap off the internet that screws up my computer and theres alot of people out there who have a smooth running computer that runs fantastic because they know something about taking care of there computer. Hmmm I guess the hackers are going after Mac OS this time hope Stevie Jobs is up to the task. Mac owners get your Firewalls up and your Anti-virus program up-dated...Oh don't need them thinking Mac OS is the safest in the world. Gotta keep the pipe dreams alive.

Fake or not, i don't care. I HATE all of you whining bastards who hate every OS just because of popular opinion. NEWS FLASH: THE MAJORITY ISN'T ALWAYS RIGHT. I am not a computer guru, but i use vista on my *NEW* laptop, and it works well. i agree with Popadopolis, if you don't like the way vista runs on your computer, it's a sign... UPGRADE

Vista is awesome. I bet you the people who "HATE" Vista are just like those people in the video. Don't listen to your dumbass friends and coworkers. Nothing is wrong with Vista.

Nothing like an intelligent discussion to sort out the issues :-)

If you're having problems with Vista, there's only one solution...

GET INTO THE FUTURE!

Vista has a 'vista experience' rating and if your computer is anything less than a 4.0, you need to upgrade. My 2G dual core with g-force is a 5.0 and has never crashed once in the 6 months I've owned it. Just a few mouse clicks and the security crap is turned off, or if you're real creative, you can even customize them to only warn about things you want it to. Crazy huh?

Stop hanging on to the antiques. Spend a few bucks and get into the future, and enjoy the power of Vista.

I like Vista. Dunno wtf everyone is bitching about.

hold this damn bandwagon steady! im trying to figure out which way its going before i jump on. how about you dump your PCs and just use a PS3 instead? LOL god i am dumb.

suzy blue balls = my hero

I use Adblock Plus so don't see the ads. Thanks for the free entertainment Geekologie. Suckers! Wait, are there any boobs in these ads I'm missing out on?

Yeah Vista is...

Wait.

Did you say Code Red made your penis shrink? That was a joke, right? Because I seriously stopped drinking that stuff because it seemed to make my pee-pee (pew-pew?) hurt. No, seriously. I'm being honest. Not joking.

Maybe I should have taken measurements...

i like people owning athlon 6000+ 4gb and running x86 xp. they prove my gossip theory is right.

and we all know bitching vista is trendy. that's why, despite i am a happy owner of stable and reliable x64 vista business, i admit it's a piece of crap ;)

@6

I bought my laptop after vista came out, so it had vista installed on it. The thing was apparently designed and made to be released along with Vista. Once I actually got to check it out, it was a major disappointment. I guess my main beef is with hardware makers and their idiocy of rushing a product just to make the opening deadline with Vista without properly testing it or giving the option to opt out on Vista.

And yes, I tweaked the security settings after the first few days of having it and got rid of that damn annoying security pop-up.

But what I'm finding hard to believe is how you other Vista owners aren't having problems when you install software such as Firefox, AIM messenger, Itunes and such.

Also, what's the deal with the that damn DEP preventing some programs to run. And when I try to let a program *such as firefox* through the settings, it still manages to shut it down. Then i go to the microsoft help site and they can't help at all and have to spend ages on random forums just to get the confirmation that it's not just me having the problem, yet microsoft has yet to come up for a patch or something. just ridiculous.

I've just had so many damn problems with Vista that it's pretty much tainted my view towards it.

looks like staged acting 2me.
My beef was they moved everything around. took forever to find 'save as' option.

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I like how people look at the graphical whammy delivered by Aero and use it to justify buying a whole new computer (or at least a couple extra gigs of ram). My computer runs an old Athlon XP2500 with 512 megs of ram and a GeForce 4 video card. With xubuntu installed and Compiz running, it boots/runs faster and even looks better than brand new PCs rocking dual core processors and 4 gigs of ram.

On a five minute test drive vista seems great. There are some really nice features (the search in the start menu etc.) But it is perpetually unstable. I had a brand new Thinkpad with decent hardware running vista for 6 months and I don't remember it once shutting down without me having to hold the power button down for 10 seconds. I re-imaged with XP and now the laptop runs great.

Microsoft seems to have a history of releasing an OS that is a total turkey, then releasing a better one right after it. (remember windows 2000?) I think the mentality is that they can sell vista to everyone under creation then say "sorry vista sucked, here's something new that works great, go buy that"

Skinjob, you are an idiot. Vista runs perfectly fine on amd athlon processors (aka, way slower than intel dual cores) and 1 Gig of ram. It all depends on your graphics card you know.

Ever tried to edit audio/video with Vista? No? Wanna know why? The software won't work, that's why! No paches coming either.
Now, if you're an asshat who needs the latest, greatest, wizz bang thing on the market to do your e-mails & look at porn, then this is the OS for YOU! All those smooth gadgets & shiney things... wow... Just don't try to do anything real with it, like oh i don't know... PLAY A GAME!

*it doesn't surprise me that 3rd party software like "Firefox" won't work either. Most ppl would blame the software, exactly what they (MS) are hoping i bet.

what i have:
amd duron 170 2.0ghz dual core
2g of ddr 400
ati radeon x1650xt
200g hard drive

and guess whatt? vista runs amazing ive had it for over a year and no problems at all, experiment with it a little and stop complaining about security if you dont like vista security then download avg 8 or something duh!

I unfortunately have to use vista on a regular basis. Simple things like network settings, file transfers to other pcs, handheld devices, become complicated, even with the security settings turned off. In fact, it's easier to set-up a network between an XP pc and a Mac, seriously.

The new vista service pack took 3 tries to install (first two installs restarted with nothing changed, after hours of waiting, just to say that there was a new service pack update waiting to be installed... duh!)

Shutting down using the start menu does not shut down the OS, just logs out the current user and stays on the user login screen. Shutting down from the login screen takes an average of 15 to 30 minutes. 10 second press on the power button is the only way to shut down or restart vista quickly (almost brings back nostalgia using the power button to shut down windows 3.1).

Having to come up with an ad to say that "vista doesn't suck", already tells me that it does. Maybe they should try to get 'regular' vista users like me to do the 'Mojave' demo, and if they can sway my opinion, then that would be something. Hopefully Windows 7 is everything Vista is not, or I might just switch to a Mac instead. I have been using windows since 3.1, 95, 98, ME, and XP. Vista is the worst of them all and has already made me lose faith in MS.

i just cant afford it. XP has never given me a problem so i dont need to upgrade at the same time.

Wow, that's funny. I've got Vista Ultimate running on a custom rig (256MB Radeon X800GT, 2GB RAM, AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+) and it runs like a f***in' beast. And that's not even a high end setup. I run the entire Adobe CS3 Master Collection frequently (Photoshop, Fireworks, Flash, Encore, Premier Pro, Soundbooth all 10 sec. boot avg.), Fox Video Studio (solid as hell converting program), the Zune software (3 sec. boot on fresh restart) and tons of other stuff all while Object Dock and Windows Sidebar is running along with full-on Aero. You can't run a modern OS on your f***ing 5 yr old Compaq with an integrated graphics chipset, or 512 of RAM and expect it to run well.

Windows 98
Released 1998
Recommended RAM = 24MB

3 years pass

Windows XP
Released 2001
Recommended RAM = 128MB

5 years pass

Windows Vista
Released 2006
Recommended RAM = 1024MB

Keep in mind Moore's Law and how cheap ram is ( 2GB can easily be obtained for under $50)

If you can't figure out how to run a PC go get a Mac. Then you don't have to think about it.

BTW just call me flame-resistant, got a Macbook 2.16 Triple-booting Vista Ultimate, Hardy Heron, and Leopard.

the only thing i can think right now is "YEAH RIGHT..."
For me microsoft is going under really fast...
i'm kinda geeky so i already had win, linux and mac, and i sticking to mac for now...
my top is like mac, linux and win in the end.

BTW, Firefox has never had a hiccup and required absolutely no tweaking. Maybe you f***ed something up. I installed Vista on all my computers (Two desktop, three laptops) and it runs smooth. even guess what. FIREFOX!! Stop the bullshit. Either your all lying about Firefox or you messed with something you shouldn't have.

Geekologie Writers>>> I want to thank you guys for actually having unbiased writing (srsly). Engadget has been slowly pissing me off over the last couple years. I barely read Crapgadget anymore and my mainstays are the Giz and the Geek. Geekologie is #1 on all my feeds.

I'm running Vista Ultimate on both a MacBook (using Bootcamp), and an HP Athlon 64 dual core 4000+ 4g ram (only 3 shows up in system properties) GeForce 8500GT 512 and 2 500Gb HD's. Know which one runs more stable, reliable and fastest? The one running on a Mac. My HP is constantly doing strange things, such as forgetting which program runs a shortcut (any file or shortcut), and a restart is the only thing that fixes it. Then the hard drives run for a solid hour before disk writes speed up. Yes, the DEP and security features have been 86'd, and I'm running corp grade AV.

I for one will not deploy Vista to any company system on my network. It took me 30 minutes to find the renamed add/remove programs. wtf? If it tooke me that long, god only knows how long it will take an average user. And another thing, rdp console sessions and vnc aren't interactive (thanks for moving the drivers to session 0 and the user session to 1 MS). So I can't interactively help a remote user.

At best I'd give it a mixed bag rating. It's only saving grace for me is the media center and extender functions, and the side bar picture viewer for random desktop pron.

the people in these videos are not actors. i was a part of the experiment, and a video of me is on the mojave experiment site. anyway, i was pleasantly surprised with what they showed me in terms of windows vista, but it still is not enough to make me switch from mac. all in all, though, the "experiment" was fun, i got paid, and they tricked me.

f*** vista.

microsoft hasnt changed the kernel for windows since they made it 22 f***ing years ago.

OSX is way lower on resources than that windows bullshit.

just my 2 cents

I don't think Vista is the problem as much as the horribly sucky shit that Dell, HP, Gateway, etc., put inside a computer case. My sister has a pretty expensive HP pavilion that I HAD to downgrade to xp because the computer was a piece of shit. I build my own computers for cheaper and they run Vista ultimate just fine and I enjoy vista. I actually also enjoy Mac for its easy usability. However, I still use XP for my hardcore super 1337 gaming ... which I am horrible at.

Y'know now that I think about it, I gotta agree with #2 up there...it does seem an awful lot like a viral marketing attempt.

I myself currently run Vista (came with it) on my laptop and XP on my desktop, Vista is a lovely program when it's actually working. The trouble is keeping it in that stage.

"I like that security feature" Oh bloody hell -nobody- likes the security feature...>.> they need better actors.

Vista is still ridden with impossible to miss bugs after all this time.
* Emptying the recycle bin? The filelist doesn't refresh and you have to do it manually to see the bin actually being empty.
*Open a folder in details view. Mark a file or fileset and notice the total size in the bottom of the window. Press F5 for refresh and mark the same files. Now the size has doubled. Each mark and refresh adds to the total.
*Overwriting a file with FTP? The progress calculator pops up over the confirmation dialog.

I found these errors and more during my first week using vista. After almost 2 years of updates still nothing has happened.

This idea is just smart. I use Microsoft products just because I would never buy a Mac (prices too high, can't stand the fact that they seem more fashion object than computers, less gaming etc etc) but I'm not really a Ms fan; lets say that my original Win XP is a more than fair OS, and that I'll judge Vista only when I'll try it myself.
But I really can't stand all the criticism of everybody that trying to look different, cool or a tech expert talk shit of everything new and they haven't even used once.
It's just stupid, it's like me saying I don't really like the latest Michelin tires designed for the Ferrari Enzo...
So thumbs up to Microsoft, too often object of non sense stereotypes.

I'm against vista because I'm highly pissed off at microsoft for only releasing halo 2 pc on it. most of my other games wouldn't work properly on vista, so its not quite worth getting it. DAMN YOU, BILL GATES! YOU'RE EVIL! (srsly, iff you translate his name into ascii, add all the numbers up and add a 3 cos hes william gates the third you get 666)

Windows 3.1 FTW!!!

Vista looked at Leopard OS and said, YEAHHHH like that but not as good!!!

We have Vista on a few systems in my office, and yes...It bites. For the Vista fanboys, sorry...but it will NOT run our accounting software, and it will NOT run several other apps we use on a daily basis.

Try moving directories around, and tell me if you don't have any issues. You often have to move the directory several times before it will complete the task.

Wireless networking? I have yet to see a wireless network connection with DHCP work under Vista. It shows THREE wireless network connections (but there is only one availible in our area, and that is us). You have to manually set an address or it will not connect.

Sorry, but until Vista improves, we cannot use it in a business environment.

Me hate micrsoft for pushing the stuff into my face, so stop buying there crap.
And vista was way to hard to crack so i hate it :P

Fie on all these Vista lovers... "Works fine for me..." - whatever, let's ignore the six bajillion complaints surrounding the thing and stick our heads in the cybersand. I work for a huge firm in downtown Chicago, *all* our machines were upgraded at once and since that time it's been nothing but slow boot-ups, slow processes and crashes. It has poor interaction with the windows suite, poor interaction with printer drivers... it's a freaking mess. And if you think *I* hate it, you should hear the IT guys talk about it.

Microsoft knows none of you lemmings are going anywhere, it knows it has no serious competition - it knows it can put out a sh*t product and there's not a damned thing anyone will do about it. Microsoft knows it can continue to eat up the majority of your memory for *just* the operating system and you'll bend over and take it.

So it does.

This is a direct response to Apple's attack ads. Microsoft needs to do something to stop the bleeding and I think this is a pretty good attempt.

Most of Vista's shortfalls have been addressed, except for the performance issue which is resolved by upgrading your machine. Computers do now slow down over time. A computer from 1989 runs at the exact same speed today as it did when it was new. It's our demands and expectations that change, and thus, so must our hardware.

Oops... "Computers do now slow down over time. " meant to say do NOT slow down...

Wait, let me drink some kool-aid first . . . .

Yum, much better.

Vista good.

It's funny how they only gathered people that obviously have little experience with computers.

Btw Macs are still gayer then windows.

mmmmm leopard

This is what I see from vista opponents:

"OMG NOOO VISTA SUCKS BECAUSE MY 1992 PRINTER WON'T WORK!!!11!123!4"

Failures in all regards.

I never stated that it sucked, but until they AND vendors can play catch up with each other, we cannot use this in a business environment.

Maybe after another patch release it will be fine.

I've tried it, had too many issues that eats up the I.T. departments time. So unless it improves, we order downgrade CD's with all new equipment.

I never had problems with Vista, but then again I bought it a year after it came out and slapped in onto a box I built with high-end components. I can well imagine that folks who installed it when it was new onto a Walmart special had issues with it.

mhh snow leopard

Vista is a big wanky gimmick. Some people go nuts for gimmicks, but the only reason I haven't reinstalled XP is because then 2GB of my memory would be entirely redundant.

@Tim

My 2004 printer doesn't work on vista and my 2002 scanner doesn't work on vista either.

But they work under MacOS 10.5.

Strange

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I like the people haveing problems installing firefox... lmao. And people who say you need 4GB of ram and cant play games.

Guess, what. I have 2GB DDR800 ram, and I havn't had a problem playing a single game, the worst I had to go through was run BF2 in admin mode. I have zero speed problems and can max out most games, from bf2, fear, CoH, DoD:S, TF2, oblivion, I can only run crysis on medium though, but you're not running it higher then medium on any OS with a 8800gs anyways.

I know how to use computers properly, thus I haven't had any problems with vista for over a year since I bought it. Nor did I go out and buy a brand new computer. I built this computer a couple months before I got vista, and it cost me 650$ including shipping and tax for the parts. (Free case from frys and 5$ power supply helped, both on black friday)

I did upgrade a video card since then, but that was only just recently.

its funny how they get dumbasses that probably dont know shit about computers to review the product

You know, this all reminds me of when XP came out...
It was shit at first too & it seems just as they've got it working right, now i HAVE to have a new OS...

Why?

Why cant they just package XP with SP2 & make a super version that works fine with just about any modern hardware like the one i'm using now, without the huge download? It's not like i'm running a 5 year old machine here...
I think the fight is coming from the hardware/gaming manifacturers; Nvidia, etc... They had just got hold of all the code they needed to make their hardware work with XP & then MS goes & brings out an entirely different OS & no code to work with. I work in a shop selling DJ software & most of that won't run on Vista *yet*. There are some patches out but they don't fix all the problems. I think Dell can be blamed a bit for trying to put Vista on their crappy machines too. Vista is for NEW, high end PCs ONLY!

A friend of mine had an awesome version of 98, back in the day... He went though the registry & 1 by 1, pulled things out to see what they did. If it made no difference to the running of the machine, he left it out. After much trial & error & some amazingly spectacular crashes, he was left with the most stable version of Windoze i have ever seen. We could record & edit huge chunks of audio after that & it never crashed once.

Gotta love you guys saying if Vista runs slowly on your machine, you should just upgrade. You're the fools and you don't even know it. I love Windows XP, did right from the beginning, but I'll join the chorus: Vista sucks!

So why should I have to now upgrade a very capable dual core laptop simply because MS decides that their latest OS needs more stuff to work properly. If I need to double my 'capacity', be it memory, CPU's, whatever to feel the love from Vista, is Vista also going to double my productivity? No, it won't. It'll do the exact damn same stuff XP did for me quite capably. But unfortunately now the OEM doesn't sell my new laptop with XP, only Vista, take it or leave it - and probably because MS told them that was how it was going to be.

But you lemmings just buy into the whole thing. "Well if it's too slow, buy a bigger one." You're fools the lot of you, and the sad reality is, you don't even realize it - instead you're like brainless zealots standing there poking fun at the others who choose not to be fools with you - and in the meantime, MS and the hardware vendors laugh themselves all the way to the bank.

Baa-aaa-aaa-aaa.

Vista is not too shabby if you have Quad core and 4+ Gigs of ram. I have a system with 6Gigs and I can't complain.

Although in the workplace, as an IT consultant, I've been installing XP on all my client's machine and talk bad about Vista because of software compatibility & hardware compatibility issues. In many cases, they are better off buying a new system with vista on it because upgrade may not be worthwhile.

@Sid

Hey maybe that printer and scanner set up you got going is probably only for mac.

Strange.

Here's my two cents. Tell me what useful new functionality comes with Vista? It takes faster hardware for what? To run new amazing games, to process faster with less overhead, to boot faster, to revolutionize how you input data, view data, etc? We should be seeing OS's that take less overhead to run and do more and have a greater compatibility. I don't see that with Vista so it's a fail in my opinion. Has some cool visual stuff but that doesn't win me over.

What an odd attempt at PR for Vista. Basically they're saying, "hey look at us, we have an image problem... all the millions we spent flogging Vista were wasted." It's like McDonalds attempts at convincing people their food was healthy... why would they need to unless it was obviously unhealthy. Even if this is not staged, it is pretty sad / fuinny to watch.

The main issue with Vista is, people have been fleeced for many years by Microsoft with each upgrade, and by now they are getting fed up. They practically have a monopoly on the industry and are still greedy. It is extremely overpriced when compared to say OSX, which is more feature rich.

Vista has been less stable on my laptop - the explorer keeps crashing and has to be restarted all the time. Luckily this does not require a reboot. It is also extremely resource hungry and occupies a shitload of disk space.

I will be moving to a mac pretty soon, as I have found XP and Vista just too unreliable as well as being very prone to viruses.

What are they doing about people who have used vista, realized it is a big flaming turd, and are now back on XP?

What a crock. Let people use if for a few days or weeks, after they've seen some blue-screens, lock-ups, and auto-reboots.

Windows new operating system, VISTA (a.k.a. Mojave), is so bad, many IT (information technology) departments are considering Linux and Mac OS alternatives.
And new survey (JUL-2008) by KACE, a systems management appliance company, suggests that 60% of those surveyed have no plans to deploy Microsoft Windows Vista, a 10% rise over a similar survey administered by KACE in November 2007. A full 42% of these are actively exploring alternatives other than VISTA, with 11% having made the leap to alternative platforms like Mac OS and Linux.

A Google search on "Microsoft Office 2003 stopped working" produced 184,000 hits!
A Google search on "Microsoft Office stopped working" produced 321,000 hits.
A Google search on "Microsoft memory leak" produced 693,000 hits.
A Google search on "Microsoft Office broken" produced 2.5 Million hits.
A Google search on "Microsoft security problem" produced 11.1 Million hits.
A Google search on "VISTA sucks" produced 2.7 Million hits.
A Google search on "Windows slow" produced 3.7 Million hits.
A Google search on "Microsoft buggy" produced 4.14 Million hits.
A Google search on "Windows buggy" produced 6.50 Million hits.
A Google search on "Microsoft VISTA bad" produced 34.5 Million hits (yes, that's Million with an "M") !
Compare that to "XP sucks" which produces less hits (i.e. 2.5 million), and XP has been around many more years than VISTA.
A survey of over 4,200 showed:
VISTA really does suck (64%).
It's only a perception that VISTA really does suck (36%).

Vista is too bloated with "eye candy" and other non-essential components. It takes over 6 gigs of HDD space - for the "home" version! - and on a laptop with a 40 gig drive, I can't spare 15% of that limited capacity for just the OS. XP is only 1.2 gigs, and can be cut down to maybe 850 megs if you delete the DLL cache. This is much more sensible on a laptop. The thing I hate most about Vista is that they changed the traditional Windows user interface way too much. Every version since Win98, the basic interface has been pretty similar, in particular Windows Explorer. My first day with Vista, it took HOURS to figure out how do even the simplest file management tasks. There was no good reason for Vista to have changed the way Windows Explorer looks and operates. And why does Vista seem to be constantly thrashing the hard disk? What is it doing? I watched the drive access light and disc access in Task Manager once, and for almost an hour after boot-up, Vista was STILL making hundreds of disk accesses per minute even though the machine was idle.
After the second day of extreme frustration and inability to figure out where Vista had hidden some file management tool I needed, I re-partitioned the HDD the way I wanted it, reformatted, and installed XP. Fortunately Dell had XP drivers for all hardware on the machine. I am now a much happier person. I suppose someday computer hardware will advance to where XP will no longer run, and I'll be forced to go with Vista, or Mojave, or whetever they will be calling it then, but for the time being I'll keep running XP.

I went out and spent over 2 grand on a system, I hate Vista ..Internet Explorer locks up and freezes my entire system with 6 megs of ram on board..what a crappy O.S..So, I went out and blew another $300.00 for XP Pro..should have gone with linex..and told gates where to stuff it.

boy, microsoft is willing to do anything to save their ass...ive use vista, see it for my self, n decide it for my self...that i wont use it...PC users..stick to XP!!

Ah, and it does look good... and it is impressive.. if you're only using it for half an hour.... but try living with it.. try installing new hardware with it! Try running it with old hardware!

BOOM CRASH BANG!!!!!!!

I tried... I really did.. cos it's so pretty and all... but I'm reverting to XP on my spiffing new laptop...