Mar 7 2010Oh, You Know, Just Playin' Muh Games

Here's another one to PC, LOVE YOU BRAH.

I dont get it.

Finally, the truth comes forth.

The joke is that PC is compatible with all games. and mac isn't.

I liked this one (click on name link)

You know Steam, as well as Portals 2, is coming to the Mac, right?
This comic seems to come at a particularly bad time, when gaming for the Mac is finally starting to pick up pace.

Sadly true. But you gotta give them something! That's why I have a PS2. :3

Hey PC, want to play some Dead Rising?
No?
How about some Mario Kart?
No?
Dude okay lets just play some Mario Galaxy, your on star duty though.

Srsy wut. All teh games lulz, no.

win

& 8

You can play Mario Kart and Galaxy on PC using Dolphin

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! MAC IS AWESOMERER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PC IS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!
<3 mac 4LIFE
<3 GW <3

@ 8 & 10

... and Dead Rising, but that game sucks.

... oh, and Mac can't play either

Awesome. Macs suck.

Funny. NOT

Lets see...

a.) A Mac can do all the Mac stuff
b.) A Mac can boot Windows ( if need be ) via Bootcamp
c.) A Mac can boot Windows in VMWARE or Parallels
c.) A Mac can use Linux in VMWARE or Parallels

So lets sum it up

A Mac can do all the Mac stuff AND do all the Stuff that a Windows machine can do.

Hmmm, sounds to me like a Mac can use MORE software than any Windows PC....

@10
but that's illegals!

@6

Mac can have steam all it wants, but you'll have to tell me what the point is when none of them games that steam sells work on a Mac ?

@15

I think the argument is about games running natively in Mac OS vs. Windows. No one is really going to play a 3D game seriously within a virtual environment.

Not to mention all the software license costs from all of that, a Mac user who wants to play video games would just get a PC for gaming with the same costs.

Can the things be done in your argument? Sure! Cost practicality? not really.

@18
No one is really going to play a 3D game seriously within a virtual environment?

wait wut? no one bothers with emulators?

So how does PC play all teh games then?

@18

With bootcamp you are not emulating ( like with VMWARE or Parallels ) - its a native Windows Install - so its basically 100% Windows on a Mac.

@19

He was talking in relation to play a game, such as counterstrike, in a "virtual environment" such as VM Ware or Parallels. Which would be painful for more demanding games.

@15 So if Mac developed software specifically so users can use Windows or Linux on a Mac, what exactly does that say about Mac's own OS?

@22

That its for serious stuff and if you want to play games get a console or install windows.

People don't seem to understand that the hardware to run both PC's and Macs aren't all that dissimilar anymore.

The argument today has become more of a Mac OS vs. Windows argument, which is where the similarities seem to disappear. The whole premise of the Mac vs. PC commercial campaign, is making people miss the underlying argument that it is actually a Mac OS vs. Windows debate.

Yes the hardware that you buy from Apple is called a Mac, however, the whole idea of bootcamp itself takes away from the selling point of the system. Why can't it stand on it's own? Why does it need Windows? Proprietary business practices of the past: Steve Jobs/Apple love the control over their environment, and they don't like to open up to developers as much.

It's like a gated community opening up, yes they will accept new people into the community, but they aren't likely to take minorities ;)

On the other side of the coin, I do see a lot of new developers porting games (which actually drive PC technology advancement) to Mac OS, and I am very happy for them.

This is retarded. Like many others I could give a shit about playing games. I use my computer for work and design. There's more to a computer than wasting your time.

That rhymes

Oh, well...
I'm off to play COD4 on my Mac Pro...

The funny thing is, all of the games I have for it play ten times better than my Asus (which cost $2700). Especially with 8GB of RAM and a kickass graphics card. So all you PC fanboys that come on and post "MACS SUX" can suck it.

@25: If the whole point of a computer is solely to be used for work, only work, and nothing else, as you seem to think, then why are you on Geekologie? Shouldn't you be working?

@27

I think i've read maybe one comment so far that has flat out said Mac's suck?

I don't think anyone has ever denied Mac's usefulness in the work and design environment. I have one specifically for my work too.

I'm not saying that anyone has yet...just saying that there usually is a huge group of idiots who post three-word comments.
And yes, Macs are probably the best choice if you're in the graphic design or movie industry. In fact, nearly every person I know who does serious work of any kind owns a Mac. They're cleaner, faster, and more efficient in offices.
However, making a transition from PCs to Macs in an office is actually quite difficult...you have to weigh in the benefits. Expensive and possibly incompatible with your server and programs has to balance with task effectiveness and ease of use.

Mac sucks. End of story, try using WinSCP or PuTTY on a mac (for those of you who say its work related.) VMfusion sucks and barely runs. Not to mention you have to buy it.

.toast, wtf kind of extension name does that mean like seriously!

PC 1 - Mac 0
Canada 3 - USA 2

@30 PEW PEW PEW!

They keep going and going with this little back and forth thing, like people can't afford to buy two computers or something. I own a PC and an XBOX 360 for gaming, and a mac for everything else. ...*every* thing else.

who really gives a shit? as long as the machine in front of me does what i need it to do, then what difference does a fucking logo make?

hardcore pc fanboys bitch because they're afraid of change.. and hardcore mac fanboys bitch because they can't quite do everything a windows machine does yet

and while you twats are bickering back and forth on the interwebs about who's e-cock is bigger, i'll keep fucking your girlfriends.. so thanks i guess?

@15

So the best points of a Mac are the fact that it can emulate a PC?
It's funny how people running windows don't give a shit if they can run OSX.

Oh that's right, because we have better things to do...like GAEMZ.

Totally did not see this post turning into a Mac Vs PC war ground. Very unexpected. PC has the market, simple and due to Apples stringent coding agreements it'll stay that way. Apple simply has no time for indie developers. Atleast that's my opinion from trying to build games on Apple OS's. I wonder who would win in a clean fight between the two systems. If Apple didn't constrain the game developers who use it to such a degree. Too late now I suppose though.

@31: YOU suck! Mac is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

@15: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

♥ GW ♥

*draws sword*
COME AND GET ME

Anyway, if you wanna play games, then buy a 360 and/or a PS3...that way you can do both at the same time.

@30

"I'm not saying that anyone has yet...just saying that there usually is a huge group of idiots who post three-word comments.
And yes, Macs are probably the best choice if you're in the graphic design or movie industry. In fact, nearly every person I know who does serious work of any kind owns a Mac. They're cleaner, faster, and more efficient in offices.
However, making a transition from PCs to Macs in an office is actually quite difficult...you have to weigh in the benefits. Expensive and possibly incompatible with your server and programs has to balance with task effectiveness and ease of use."

Actually Custom PC's develop those movies you love so much and every graphical design decision you make can be done better on Custom built PC's for less money and with more powerful parts. Hell, without the custom built PC's you hate so much you wouldn't be able to communicate with us on Geekologie right now. The point is every Mac in the world could disappear tomorrow and everything would be business as usual.

Mac's didn't even have I7 CPU's for half a year after they came out, and you can't even get a Mac that has the specialty streaming GPU's used in intensive rendering. Grow up and accept the fact that Mac's are expensive and behind on the latest hardware and don't serve much of a purpose except for the self-absorbed to tell everyone else how much better they THINK they are.

A somewhat reasonably powerful PC is expensive, too...especially a custom-built one.

That's been pointed out SO MANY TIMES

also, this fails because we read English left to right, so the first frame red "And I'm a PC/Hi, I'm a Mac".

(I actually didn't like this btw, I'm not just a sore loser; I own a PC)

@23 You've obviously never seen one of these Mac vs PC ads. In fact, Mac advertises THEMSELVES as the fun system and the PC as the serious one. My point is, Mac OS is completely inferior and they know it. Thus, why else would they develop software to use Windows on it?

That'd be like Xbox coming out with an optional Blu-Ray drive. It's essentially admitting defeat.

Anyone who argues that OS X is better than Windows because you can run Windows and OS X on a Mac machine via Bootcamp is retarded. I don't understand Apple's (and by association, Apple users') need to differentiate between a Mac and a PC. Why? Because they're the same damned thing!

Every single person so far has been arguing about Macs VS PCs, which is an illogical and fallacious argument. PC stands for Personal Computer, which by definition means, "a computer that is used by one person at a time in a business, a school, or at home."

Macintosh machines are just that: a PC. The idea that they are different is based on Steve Jobs' brilliant (albeit maniacal) marketing ploy to get you to turn against Windows by tricking you into believing that there is a difference. Up until recently, the only difference at the hardware level was that Macs used IBM processors instead of Intel.

These days you can literally build your own tower for use with OS X, and it runs just the same as a Mac machine but at a significantly reduced cost. They're called Hackintosh machines. People need to understand that the term Mac refers to the hardware that OS X is running on, NOT the OS itself. This is the same as if I were to substitute Dell instead of PC. Then I could debate Dell VS. Mac, or Dell VS. Asus, or even Mac VS. Alienware. These are all PCs, but I am substituting the brand so you understand which I am talking about.

This means that saying OS X is better than Windows because OS X can run Windows isn't entirely true. While it CAN run Windows in a Virtual Machine, the whole point Mac users make that you can run games on OS X through VM becomes invalid because it will always be better running natively on a Windows installation.

Windows can also just plain do more. Aside from the whole games argument, Windows has not only Microsoft behind it, but 95% of the Internet as well. When you're not using a Mac, you get the bonus of a modular machine as well as the support of a legion of dedicated users. When you're on OS X you get Steve Jobs' incessant need to control every facet of your life as well as some very limiting and terrible programs.

If I REALLY wanted OS X, I wouldn't drop $2,999 for a cookie-cutter computer that doesn't allow much room for upgrades internally, and has to be entirely sent in if one thing breaks on it (like the webcam), I would just build a Hackintosh. Custom builds are always less expensive than paying a company like Apple or Dell to make it for you, and you get the benefit of putting what YOU want on it instead of what comes with the computer. Higher end custom machines CAN be expensive, but never any where near as expensive as brand machines at the same specs.

@44

Nice, great post.

@15

You're obviously an Apple Itard. You list benefits but none of the detractions from owning a Mac. Add this to your post to make it more objective...

1. Prohibitive costs (you pay more for the same hardware)
2. Strict control over software by Apple
3. Everything done on a Mac can be done faster and for less on a custom built PC
4. Mac's aren't vital to ANY business or recreation (a custom system can do everything it does and some things it cannot)
5. You have to live with the fact that you're not better then everyone else even though Steve Jobs says that you are and you think you are
6. You NEVER can have the latest hardware in your system (Apple is consistent with being about 6-12 months in adapting new hardware)
7. Almost everything worthwhile is tailored for the windows or linux/unix enviroment

here is a post from another user on another forum....

We don’t hate on Macs, we hate on the stupid arguments that are put forth by the Apple faithful, and their derision of anything non-Apple.

We hate the arguments that somehow Apple gives you better quality hardware for the higher prices, when the hardware is the same as any Windows computer.

We hate the arguments that Microsoft is evil for some reason, but when Apple does the same, it is perfectly fine (e.g. activation of Windows vs. activation of an iPhone, or how Intel had unique identifiers in their chips accessible by software, but when they do the same in the iPhone - not a problem).

We hate the arguments that Microsoft is evil when 10 year old hardware is not supported (such as when Vista was released), but when Apple cuts suppoprt for 3 year old printers in Leopard, it is the user’s fault for not owning the latest hardware.

We hate the arguments that problems with 3rd party hardware drivers it is the fault of Microsoft, but when Apple has problems with 3rd party hardware drivers, it is the hardware manufacturer’s fault.

We hate the arguments that Apple never has any problems, but when a problem appears (such as not being able to activate a phone for hours), the user is at fault for not knowing the proper way of using a Mac, just plain stupid, or hate.

We hate the arguments when Microsoft services go down for an hour or two (such as Zune last week), it is said Microsoft provides horrible service and it is a Engadget front page mockery of Microsoft. But when iTunes goes down nothing is said, and it really is not a problem.

We hate the argument that before the iPhone, the number of applications available for a platform does not make a difference, it is the quality of the software. After the iPhone is released, all that matters is the number of applications available.

We hate the argument that somehow Apple hardware will last forever, but other computers last only a year or two. Just as many windows/Linux machines last for years also.

We hate the argument that somehow Microsoft limits user choice, when many people use non-Microsoft products. But when Apple limits choice (such as installing alternative browsers on an iPhone), it is in the user’s best interest.
We hate the arguments that Microsoft keeps control over their products, but you need to jump through hoops just to develop for the iPhone. Also alot more hardware will not work in a Mac.

We hate the arguments that Microsoft releases poor products that do not work and you need to wait for SP2 for it to be useful, is MobileMe working yet?
We hate the arguments that Microsoft does not deliver what was promised, Apple is just now delivering push notification - a year after it was promised.

We hate how some say everything was invented, created, designed, or innovated by Apple first, and everybody creates cheap knock-offs of Apple, when there is proof of it being done years before by other companies.

We hate the arguments that products such as Tablets, Netbooks, etc. are useless crap, but rumored products such as the Apple Tablet, or Netbook will be the savior of man.

We hate the argument that somehow opening a store, something that has existed for 1000s of years since somebody found they could trade a basket of vegetables for a chicken, is an Apple creation, and from now on no other company is permitted to open stores.

Also, among the many others ,we hate the argument that somehow Apple is allowed to air commercials that lie about Microsoft and Apple’s own products, but when Microsoft airs commercials that are true (a Windows computer is lower priced than an Apple computer), somehow Microsoft is evil and must stop now.

We just get sick of the pathetic fanboys who attack anybody who do not drink the kool-aid and do not give glowing reviews of anything Apple.

We hate the argument that somehow multi-touch built into Win7 is useless as we have been told a number of times, but a multitouch trackpad makes an Apple device worth the higher price tag.

http://www.householdhacker.com/content.php/160-Mac-vs-PC-debate-over

Best post to date?
I THINK SO.

Wow.

That was....quite a wall. An informative wall, nonetheless.
Anyway, I really don't care, so long as the product does what I want it to.
My 360 and PS3 does the job and keeps me sane after work.
:D

All I have to say is right-click. Cased closed bitches.

"You know Steam, as well as Portals 2, is coming to the Mac, right?"

fist off, the game is called 'Portal' noob, and secondly the key word is 'is coming' they don't have it yet and so all you mac guys can't play nearly as many games as PC users.
I am sure that someday people will start making games for the mac...like when Duke Nukem Forever comes out.

Congratulations GW, you have incited the one millionth lame-ass PC vs. Mac argument. You're all fags and you can't touch my Commodore 64.

Ahahahaha... all of them! That will shut yer traps Mac-bitches.

Don't Macs come with Bootcamp, making it possible to install Windows on it? Because my friend plays Borderlands on his MacBook Pro.

@56

So you want to run windows on a PC that cost to much to start off with and then you have to spend even more money to buy another OS? That makes sense, not.

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How come you say that mac starting to pick up at gaming ? That mac starting to pick up at anything ?
The hardware is just too slow to run new Hi-end software smoothly. Not only it's slow, it is ridiculously overpriced. For that same price, doesn't matter, weather you compare mac notebooks or mac desktop computers .. you can get up-to-date nearly hi-end PC machine and enjoy basically everything.. From gaming and multimedia applications, to newest production software like 3D Studios, Engineering software, Professional Video editors, professional audio production software.. etc. ..The possibilities are just endless).
If it is ease-of-use question, well, now with Windows 7 you basically get the same pleasant experience. That "microsoft has no taste" period is over.

I dunno, PC - is the obvious choice for me. At least today. : )

LAST!

(i'd like to thank GW for making this last posting possible, the Academy for nominating me to be the last poster, the Foreign Press, all my peeps in cell block 6, and the Lord above.....)

@61

and you can do it all of them illegally !!! with no $ spent. even your windows can be illegal.

PC supports and runs:

illegal software
illegal games
illegal operating system
illegal web accounts
illegal network
illegal films
illegal porn
illegal websites
illegal macOS
illegal everything mac on illegal macOS

got it?

and it does 10x faster because you buy hardware from the money you normally spend on legal stuff.

those who are doing illegal stuff, please buy the original product if you like it. this way you support the developers to develop more stuff you can use illegally.

apple rots faster then an aluminum frame window. and windows is aluminum now. and apple is still rotting.

@52

Post=Win!

Lol. Mac just get owned.

Don't get me wrong, I would love a Mac Book Pro for school. But for all my other stuff, I'm still happy with my desktop PC.

system only.

the first thing i look at is what i need. then i have a look into my wallet. both information are essential for me. then i see what a system is composed by.

[component] ([main characteristic])

motherboard (extendability cost and governing technologies like pci speed, CPU socket, HD audio channels ...)
RAM (size and speed)
CPU (speed, nr of cores, cache, 64bit)
GPU (physics, speed, compatibility (dx10, dx11) and connectivity)
HDD (size and speed, possible RAID)
optical media (r/w speed, type, big cache, i stick with dvd for now, and buy blueR after a y with half the price)
tower (something appealing and cheap, usually bigger then normal)
power unit (to run all the above +30%)

is around 600$ to run all the current games and software. if you want to go high end you shouldn't pay more then 2000$ and you have ultra HD gaming witch BTW a console can never do; + 3D vision on nearly all of the games.

i can't imagine doing that with an apple related product. however this is about a 3 day documentation. i ain't rocket scientist or something but i do have my intelligence above a cockroach witch is rare in the mac community.

if you are braindead, go buy yourself an iPhone with that money. or a useless DELL.

why games?
they are the most sophisticated pieces of software since the dawn of computation.

BBBBOOOOORRRRRRIIIINNNNGGGGGGG!!!!! Get a life people, i bet all yous are fat and lonely with so much dam time spent on games.

I have a mac n a pc n I love them equally because they were free. Ha!.

This is a moot point these days. I have Windows XP running on my Mac and I play PC games all the time. Well not all the time...because I have a wife, two daughters, a mortgaged house, a freelance graphic design business, a band and a whole lot of other things that keep me off of my ass most of the day. But anyway, yeah, moot point. Someone throw me a copy of Marathon, I mean Doom, I mean Halo to load up on my dual-core 3+ Ghz Intel Mac so I can get fragged shortly thereafter.

I'm not gonna bother reading the above comments. Because all of you Mac fags make me physically sick. Linux Operating systems > ALL
Nuff said.

ITT idiots that were trolled by GW.

BTW, if macs have essential the same hardware configuration as pcs nowadays why do hardware upgrades cost so much more? Cause you're a sucker? Yeah, I already knew that.

I have enjoyed these Mac vs PC arguements very much! I don't know why but I get a kick out of it!

Ironically, isn't PC-gaming a dying market with a diminishing port system now going from consoles to PC? Of course to fuel the versus stance, this is coming from someone with a PC running bridged, +8GB dedicated RAM 4-way SLI just because it's possible...and the build still costed less than my custom Mac Pro which has less performance.

Mac users that spout "computers are for work" should really switch to linux if they want to be taken seriously.

And if your quad core with 8GB of RAM with state of the art graphics card has low performance on games then you should give up on computers right now and get an abacus.

PC = personal computer
but Apple makes PC. So they are a PC.

I don't get the PC Apple thing since Apple is a PC. Can someone explain that?
Are Apple attacking Windows? If so, why not just come out and say Apple vs Windows?

Apple only allows changes done by an authorized Apple dealer. Windows is an OS that allows custom built machines to be built by any type of user. You're not free to change something on an Apple PC that you can with a PC running on Windows.

Waaaaaaah

@ 72 - "Not by a longshot", says I.

Pc gaming isn't a dying market. And certainly not in the aspect of development. Pretty much all games are made by computer using a native coding language such as C, C++, and combined with Activex or java etc... Therefore computers need to be compatible with what they create for virtual modelling and demo's.
Also everyone knows that Pc gamers are the best, and most creative around. If any market should be invested in, it should be Computer Gaming.
Nowadays pretty much everyone who isn't a complete beaner has at least one computer, and though computer software is much more easily exploited/hacked, it has so much of a wider target audience than consoles, that it eventually doesn't matter lol. I personally am a hobbyist game developer and work using C++ and ASM etc, and I've found PC users to be the most rewarding people to work for. I love being able to source odd jobs from people on the side of serious development in order to boost income. Essentially when you work for a console development team, you work in a set payroll and have limited spare time to work with your own things. Freelance is the way forward!

Btw sorry if I totally jacked this post and turned it into one of game developing >_<

I like this post.

This joke is obsolete... Steam is coming to mac and its gonna let it play all the games that they have including left 4 dead, portal, half life etc..

@78

been there, done that.. and cant wait to frag the mac nubs as they come in.

pc ftw

well i just look at the money...on one hand ive got a $1500 Mac, on the other ive got a PC with all the same specs for $700...hmmm, choices choices...and those commercial that put down PC like oh PC's get viruses, psh, imagine the spyware i could buy with $800 (the reason why Mac's dont get viruses, is probly cause no hacker worth worrying about uses Mac) ...and those of you going on about running windows and linux on your Mac...big deal i run windows on my PC, and i dont like getting F*@#$! in the A$$ by penguins so i dont run linux....

i do like the design of a mac... not those brick-like dell or hp... since i dont see much of a difference inside, ill go for a mac

wtf, i just dual boot

@31 Why on earth would you use PUTTY on a Mac? putty was developed for Windows to make up for the fact that Windows didn't have a decent command line tool. Terminal is built into the MAC OS.

And WinSCP? LOL. Your a fucking retard.

@82 are you fricken retarded?

Putty isn't anything to do with commandline you fag. It's used by servers for remote administration, monitoring network users, telnet exploitation etc etc...
If you want to come back with some faggot comment that's gonna get you trolled at least know what you're on about. Windows command line (batch) is useful enough for any windows user anyway, and if you want to use command line, go for linux you stupid faggot. If you think your precious macs are good for business work and serious things, then why don't you all get some decent fucking software that you can actually use for a wide range of tasks... Pc's shit on macs for software ranges and compatibility. All you have exclusively got that has a tiny bit of usefulness is Steam, so that you can run Doze or some Nix O/S. So how about you get good and tell mac to create a decent fucking kernel that people can work with? Then maybe you can progress...

Until then, shut the fuck up and keep bowing down to us. Because PC's run the fucking world dipshit. Without them, there would pretty much be no internet at all.

Try to get@me if you want, but I don't personally care for the opinion of someone that criticises software that they aren't even sure of what it is...

Feel free to jump under a bus (with your apple hardware) by the way.

Sorry I meant @83

His stupid mac-ness momentarily dimmed my intelligence.

@85

Ignore the I-tards dude. They all buy into Apple commercials and then spew out things about technology and IT that makes no fuck'n sense.

Lolz at Mac newbs getting fragged on CS Source. PC FTWWW

86. Cpt Obvious

what a revelation.
i mean, who the fuck is so stupid to buy an apple peace of shit?
well anyone who is that fuckin' stupid.

it is like you buy a fuckin' chinese shoe and a nike, the fucking nike cost 50 fuckin times more, an some fuckin retards don't fuckin realize that the same 15 years old exploited bitch made them both with the same fuckin materials.

that too much f-s?

anyway Jobs and Wozniak are brilliant. they essentially wrote the book on how man interacts with machine. Jobs is a very good CEO too, he has some talent selling shit to people and make them believe it's cookie. and he has all the rights, i would do the same.

mac suckers, eat some cookie.

67. GiNa
my dear.

i don't know about the rest but i play only about 12h a week i live with my girlfriend (sexually active), have a normal job (frontend developer), i'm about to buy an apartment and get married. i don't think that anyone is that obsessed here. except mac fanatics :P

@88

Yeah steve jobs is so brilliant that apple went from 80% of the pc market to 5%. That's excellent (sarcasm)!!! Some custom clothes designers sell jeans for 5,000 dollars a pop, are they geniuses also? The only huge thing Steve jobs has ever done is convince idiots to buy Apple/Mac products. According to your definition of brilliant we need to add Billy Mays and Michael Jackson to the "Brilliant" list.

Just because someone sells a lot of something and makes a lot of money doesn't make them brilliant, it makes them successful and there's a difference you seem to fail to comprehend. Many successful CEO's are semi-retarded but rich. Einstein didn't die a billionaire did he? If you gonna suck off Steve Jobs at least get paid for it.

I'm sorry you're so butt hurt because the Mac-Tards got burnt so badly in the comments, but you deserve it, go cry someone else.

Don't blame me because the I-tards got owned, you dumb-fuck.

@88

Also neither Steve Jobs or Wozniak revolutionized anything. The biggest apple centric products like the mouse, semi-conducter, hell even OS-X was essentialy designed by other people who were in no way affiliated with Apple.

All they did was take shit other people designed/invented and sold it as "Their" product. Read a book, watch a documentary or explore some wiki's and educate yourself. JHC

Let me know if you get tired of being "Schooled", if not, then reply and I'll "School" you some more.

Just going to through this out there...

Macs are way sexier, sleeker, build to actually last more than a year, and no they don't get viruses no matter how much porn you download. Your average Mac can kill any average PC! And a Pimped Mac no matter how hard you try will always be hotter than your "custom" PC!

They are more money and no...there isn't I7 in a Macbook Pro yet...but shet when they do you can all suck my dick while I'm living a socially normal life!

Boo Yah Bitches!

@92

You obviously have no idea what hardware is in your Mac. Because top of the line Mac's have never been more powerful then top of the line custom PC's.

Also Mac's do get viruses, it just isn't common because it's a very small portion of the PC market so no one bothers with Mac's. It is also very rare to get spyware or viruses on a Windows system unless you actually install it with active x controls or from some software you shouldn't be installing.

Once again another I-tard who has no idea WTF he is talking about.

Boo Yah Bitch

@92

Also for every story you have about a 10 YO mac I will give you a story about a 10 YO Windows PC.

Also you're a complete idiot because that same CPU, that same GPU, and your RAM (and most of the system) all come from the same manufactures so how can the Mac last longer? You're a fucking idiot and need to shut your trap unless you actually know WTF you are talking about.

Cpt Obvious

you just have to look a bit further down the line to see Jobs and Wozi's work.
the time when apple got stuck jobs was not in the business.

when i said 'brilliant' i meant technical mainly.
Steve Jobs or Wozniak invented (or at least sold first) the window based user interface in general GUI. and there are quite a lot more.
(1983 Lisa)

Jobs was absent from ~1985 to ~1997 and Wozniak ain't a marketing expert.

the only sin of apple is that they didn't have both variables (marketing and technology) high at the same time (maybe when the iPhone rolled out) in their recent history.

for the marketing part, and brand strength:

"Just because someone sells a lot of something and makes a lot of money..."

no no my friend..
it is NOT "lot of something"
it is lot of SHIT

you must admit that there is a bit of brain behind this.

but anyway, the line between apple, dell, microsoft, motorola and especially intel was never mined and fenced. a lot of IT companies come together in a shared projects, now days. pioneering and personal inventions are a thing of the past.

anyway, apple doesn't make enough money to compete with the other high profile companies. their market share is high only because of their prices. in the computer business i think DELL rates the highest.

in the cellphone section nokia is the absolute leader with around 40%, twice as much as apple's iPhone (global, not US). however apple seems to gain some ground there, not surprising since they sell the same technology for nearly twice the price.

in the osx and windows battle i think windows will get the highest ground ever with the help of DELL's multi-touch technology and win7 built in capabilities.

but that is in the future.

leave Drake @92 alone. can't you see? he has a mac now that actually last more than a year. haaaha hmm. i think the only computer things that broke under my usage where a cyrix MX (now that was old school) processor and a 2gig hdd. in arround 1998 and 1999 i think. and that shitie cyrix MX processor lasted 1y while running constantly on overclock without a fan.

after that i got myself a P4 in 2002 and that lasted 7 y with 2 reinstalls of win xp.

i now own a 64x2 5000 based pc and intend to upgrade.

Cpt Obvious
you can continue your crusade here.
that's my blog ;)

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@ Cpt Obvious

I may not know as much as you do about what's inside my computer, and I'm ok with that, but I do have a shit load of friends....the average consumer and other than bridging from a PC to a Mac 90% of the people I know that have Macs are in love with them...I have never in my life hear a person tell me that they're in love with a PC...Ever DJ I know in Toronto uses Macs, all of my Graphic design firm uses Macs...pretty much everyone I know has or wants a Mac. Guess it all depends on who you are really.

so on that note, regardless of how powerful you think you're PC might be, I'm always going to be a Mac/I-tard... simply because I never get pop ups, I never have to deal with viruses (and you're retarded if you think PC's don't get them), they are by far more fun to use (everything is designed for people with an eye for design), no matter what Mac you pick up if its a couple generations old or brand new you know you're working on a computer that can handle most anything you through at it (can't say that about PC's), and pay close attention to this all you PC fanboys...I CAN RIGHT CLICK WITH ONE CLICK ON MY MACBOOK!

So to sum up what we've been talking about...Macs are just cooler than PC's...kinda Obvios don't you think...Cpt Obvious?

Now you can sit on it and rotate!

Wow, almost everyone here is a retard... and that goes for fanboys for EITHER camp. First of all, EVERYTHING has advantages and disadvantages, including Windows and Mac. They both have different uses. I know my way around computers very well, and I have both macs and pc's. If you want the most raw power and hardware for the least price, then by all means, go buy a pc. If you want an efficient machine that consistently runs well and has a great design, then buy a mac. Some people need the small profile and great display of an imac. Some people need the power and customization of a windows desktop. Buy whatever suits your needs. Yes, the macs do cost more, but I generally find the difference worth it (but not always). And Mac OSX is a FAST operating system. Nobody who has used mac and windows machines can deny that, it is obvious. I use a mac for almost all my day to day stuff, as well as music recording, photoshop, and biology research. I dual boot into windows for games, everything runs natively and perfectly... and dual booting is only and advantage, not a negative thing as some of you tend to think. It only INCREASES the number of things you can do with a mac. But yes, the macs do cost more. To each his own. Like I said, I have both... but I'm happier with my macs. They don;t dick you around as much as windows... they waste less of your time. And finally, here's my main point: regardless of whether you like Windows or Mac, ANYBODY who gets their panties in a knot as badly as most people here do over a COMPUTER is fucking lame. Seriously, get a fucking life. It's like people who argue over Chevy vs Ford vs WHO THE FUCK CARES. It's YOUR money, spend it how you want, and let others spend it as they want. Get those dicks out of your asses please.

@98, I completely agree with you, I switched to Mac recently from PC and I'm very satisfied with it, however, I do feel the need of having Windows as well and get the best of both worlds!

@98. Robmo

your perfectly right, that if you don't know what is your system doing and you never have a second thought what your OS feeds back.

that's the paradigm of PC-s (well,.. windows..) in general. don't ever ever install vista. it is worst then windows 98 first edition was.

xp. very mature, very stable

win7. promising, huge scalability, tons of features. 90% at a time works flawlessly on every (modern) hardware providing you have internet connection. not that easy to use. it has some cryptic interface. he got that from vista.

mac. easy to use.,... easy to use.

@98
You fuckhead, why didn't you post this earlier.

Oh also, don't have a mac. Don't have money for them. But why hate? right? I built my own comp for around 700 dollars and it runs everything I need it to just fine, just waiting for SCII now D:

Lastly, @97 Get off your own dick, Cgrats your mac can give you a fucking blowjob. Sit on it, don't rotate just sit cause you'll chafe big boy.

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