Jan 19 2010Ready My Spaceship!: Nepture And Uranus May Have Liquid Diamond Oceans Filled With Solid Diamond Iceburgs!

The earth is flat lols

Neptune*

second... again

I was wondering where Nepture was...

Nepture??? Hmmmm....Must be next to Pandora.

Liquid ? So it's not diamond. It's the structure of the atoms which matters,...

DAMN AVATAR FISH, MOVE THE HELL AWAY FROM MY DIAMOND OCEAN.... hmmmm

thanks to wes g who would love to escavate in Uranus. ha! (audience boos)

A Million F****** Diamonds!!

Nope, dont belive it. And enen if it were true they'd have to be in mineral form. There would be diamonds just floating about. But that would be awsome.
@8...yup im booing..

Diamond (Tetragonal) is the polymorph of graphite (Hexagonal). Diamonds structure is tetragonal or better yet it is a lattice of Carbon Tetrahedra. The crystal structure of Diamond is what makes it a diamond. Therefor there is no such thing as liquid DIAMOND. It is liquid Carbon, the element. Diamond refers to a mineral, to be a mineral it must have a SOLID CRYSTAL STRUCTURE...thus is the definition. The terminology they are using is incorrect, which makes me wonder as to the validity of this article.

THAT is one good reason to send the next gold digging bitch I cross paths with into space

Thanks to wes g, who knows his way around Uranus thanks to a telescope & some weekend camping with the good ol GW

@11

Exactly what I was thinking. Diamonds are just pure carbon, its the fact that it is in that specific structure that makes it a diamond as opposed to graphite, for example. Same goes for this, just because it is pure carbon doesn't make it a diamond... That's like finding a piece of coal and calling it a diamond.

hey geniuses - gold can also be a liquid, too, but it is STILL gold. it's a phase change. wrap your feeble little minds around the fact that diamonds can be melted... ooooo....

VERY NICE

no impressed, especially considering that White Dwarfs are more akin to diamonds than these "liquid diamonds" appear to be.

Thanks to wes g, who knows a lot more about Uranus thanks to some alcohol, a lot of lubricant, and an open mind..... just sayin

@11
[Peter Griffin] "Shut up Meg"

@14 - Gold is an element and has no polymorph as it is a metal. The structure of gold is like all metals aka Fe, Cu, etc. There is no real crystal lattice. As it only has one structure it is simply called gold. Diamond, Graphite and Carbon are all names to describe the STRUCTURE of that mineral. Diamond is Diamond due to structure alone. The moment it "melts" the structure is lost and it reverts back to Carbon. If you don't know wtf your talking about, dont reply or try to call someone out. A$$

Sorry GW. I already hold the deed to Uranus. (Oh Yeah I know what that sounds like.)

I tell you what, go pick up a Mineralogy text book and look it up for yourself if you don't trust my FEEBLE little mind.

@11, 13, 19, & 21

Thank you for bringing intelligence to the comments. I'm sorry if you are not well received by the mentally challenged who comment here.

wow Irishman looks like you've cracked the code that all these super scientists conveniently didn't notice for literally decades. notice though, my peanut-sized-brain friend, that WATER is not a single element... yet it exists as a LIQUID on the average earth temperature... but guess what? this MOLECULE can be converted into a nifty thing called GAS and sometimes (i haven't seen it)... SOLID? I'm not sure what solid WATER would look like, but I sure know it completely debunks the fact that you feel only elements maintain their chemical structure simply because they change phases. i would say go back to high school but I think you need a brain transplant (link to GW's Frankenstein article).

@naas you ever try to turn a diamond into a liquid? they just burn and turn into gas (smoke) and ash. they burn without first turning into a liquid just as coal would. now how you MAY be correct in assuming that due to variations in atmosphere and distance from the sun blah blah blah, there theoretically COULD be "liquid" diamonds on those planets. however on this planet and the only one that gives a shit about shiny rocks.... it just doesn't happen.

Fix spelling in headline - iceburg

Look up the GD Definition of a POLYMORPH! Water doesn't have a POLYMORPH. It is like most minerals in that it has one gas, one solid and one liquid phase. Carbon has several different solid forms due to temperature and pressure conditions. The most common being graphite. The Hexagonal Solid form. When forced under extreme pressures, the hexagonal form is compressed to the Tetragonal form of Diamond. THE DAMN THING IS CALLED A DIAMOND DUE TO ITS MINERALOGIC STRUCTURE!!!! IT HAS TO BE A F-ING SOLID TO BE DIAMOND. It has to do with its CRYSTAL STRUCTURE...crystals are solid are they not? Once melted, that CRYSTAL STRUCTURE is no longer held together and is hence forth called Carbon. We dont call water liquid ICE, we instead call it water. I'm not arguing the fact that you can melt a diamond, but once you do it is no longer called a diamond it is called carbon....liquid bloody carbon! I think i would know my own bloody major that I've been studying for 6 bloody years.

I was also wondering if it wouldn't just be an ocean of carbon-y goodness.

Then I remembered how I DON'T have this super awesome degree in geology, chemistry, astrophysics or anything else vaguely related to liquefying diamonds, and I decided not to declare that YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T DO IT!!

I don't think they'd be very pretty, or shiny, if they were a liquid diamond ocean.

En plus, I don't like diamonds. *ick*

Wow you guys are arguing over semantics!

Also, read the article that is linked, it tells us how liquid diamonds are possible, (a shit ton more pressure than that naturally occurs on Earth) thus making it in theory possible on another planet.

@Irish While I applaud your dedication to being correct ( and actually was thinking along the same lines as you ) I can't help noting that you're getting very upset about a planet very far away.

Also: It should be "an f-ing" since you're saying the phrase "eff" which starts with a vowel sound instead of "fuh", the consonant.

I'm not trying to be an ass, just saying.

*prepares for potential onslaught of death*

Actually, I'll save you the trouble. To be a polymorph means that you have the same chemical composition but several different crystal structures. Graphite's crystal structure is hexagonal. It's layered, much like the Sheet sillicates like muscovite and biotite. Each sheet is held together weakly via Van Der Waal's bond. Therefor we use it in pencils because it breaks easily along those planes. When subjected to extremely high temperatures, the molecules are forced to a face centered cubic arrangement. This arrangement has the exact same chemical composition, only a different structure. Thus graphite and diamond are polymorphs of one another. It is the structure of the molecules that makes these minerals. Once melted, that face centered cubic arrangement breaks apart and it ceases to be diamond. It then becomes Carbon. My argument is with the terminology used in the article...there is no such thing as liquid diamond. Period...End of Story.

*subjected to extremely high temp and pressures...

sorry left a bit out.

Ooh ooh ooh, I thought you might like this:

"Other groups, notably scientists from Sandia National Laboratories, successfully melted diamond years ago, but they were unable to measure the pressure and temperature at which the diamond melted."

"Diamond is an incredibly hard material. That alone makes it difficult to melt. But diamond has another quality that makes it even harder to measure its melting point. Diamond doesn't like to stay diamond when it gets hot. When diamond is heated to extreme temperatures it physically changes, from diamond to graphite.

"...The trick for the scientists was to heat the diamond up while simultaneously stopping it from transforming into graphite."

So, you see? You're right @Irishman. But you're also wrong.

As long as you keep the pressure up, it stays a diamond and, Voila! Liquo-diamo

:D

Source: The article GW linked to: http://news.discovery.com/space/diamond-oceans-jupiter-uranus.html

The best part is we can call them liquid diamonds all we want. Hahaha!

I dunno about Uranus, but mine is friggin COVERED in diamonds.

"I'm going to be rich!"
Dive out of the spaceship into Neptune.
"Money, money, money mon- Ow. my ears. Ow! My ears. Ow! My ears! I'm bleeding. My ears are bleeding, My ears are blee-"
Implodes under atmospheric pressure.

@35 Touche.

My _mazarati_ is covered in diamonds, but that's just because I'm way to classy for burberry

*too! gah.

@36 Nevermind the extreme temperatures, it's the pressure that destroys

Don't tell me there's no such thing -- I've got a glass of liquid diamond on my desk, right in front of me.

In the sunshine it sparkles. Like, our favorite, you know ....

@35, look again -- yours is covered with pearls, not diamonds.

@23 naas, I hope this is a joke: "I'm not sure what solid WATER would look like"

I know what solid water looks like....it's effin ice

well, and the Moon is made of CHEESE!

tell me something I don't know yet...

Good stuff, irishman2010! And to add to all that, something would've had to impact both Neptune and Uranus AFTER the diamonds were already in their hardened structure in order for the pressure to turn it into liquid carbon. Not sure if a meteor crashing into the "liquid carbon sea" can create enough pressure to create a large "diamond glacier" of sorts but it sounds possible on a "What If ?" level. :)

Iceberg. For heaven's sake, use the bloody spellchecker!

LOLZBBQ GW SPELLING FAIL! LOLZZ

my isnt in science so, im not going to comment on if its possible for their to be liquid diamon. would be baddass if there was tho. DIAMOND BATHS!

aww man this is AVATAR waiting to happen.

@naas with no link to your name

Why'd you have to get all deep about this since @14 with the liquidity of gold consideration? This is a bit far beyond my intelligence and/or interest on this subject & yields a conversation I personally couldn't keep up with.

That was fucking smart man, yet you're hijacking my name to make a point I can't follow. Damn you naas with no link to your name, damn you

This is nothing new. In the book 2061 (third from 2001 and 2010) the new sun created from the imploding Jupiter threw chunks of diamonds around the solar system. The theory was that the gas giant had a layer of compressed diamond around its core and it was thrown out when the sun was formed.

While I do find the aspect of "Liquid" diamond a little far fetched, it would be theoretically possible if there was a constant amount of pressure and heat to creat the crystalline structure for the diamond, and then the continued pressure and heat combined with the fact that there would be no solid mounting point may lead to a liquid form. Remember that diamonds are formed here on Earth in the magma under the crust and then come out and cool in the rock that is formed. If there was a lack of magma and it was replaced with high density gases, then it it may not form a completely solid material.

Can I still call shotgun on "Liquid Diamond Ocean" as the name of my Synthrock band? I can? Kewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl!

wow, this means diamond are going to be more worthless than the dog shit in my back yard

duff man!

the author of 2010 speculated that there may be diamond components of the outer planets decades ago

Arthur C Clarke mentionned it in his novel 2010 (woohoo) in 1982.
It was on Jupiter.

unobtainium anyone?

I guess Lucy was right about a sky of diamonds........wait, LSD, damn I just got that......

@ 11
Diamond has a cubic structure (FCC I believe).

@14
No, you are talking about a change in state, a specific type of phase change. These people are talking about two different polymorphs that normally exist in the same state, solid. So while diamond and graphite and liquid carbon are all carbon, they are not liquid diamond or liquid graphite.

Or really, I guess they are, but only as much as liquid ice is still ice. It's really not ice any more if it's liquid. Perhaps this is all just word wizardry to drum up interest in carbon out in space.

@23
You're getting a bit worked up. This isn't very coherent, and it's hard to tell what you are trying to say in this post.

Only molecules can maintain molecular structure (what I assume you are talking about when you say chemical structure). You can do (almost) whatever you want to an element as long as you don't add in any other element and you will never have anything but the element you started with. The same is not true for molecules. Perhaps that's where the misunderstanding lies.

@26

Water has several solid phases.

there was an ad for blue nile at the bottom of this page. probably not their target audience... unless virgin means saving it for marriage...

LOL...men suck, they always want to be right. Always arguing about stupid shit, but your never right.....boo ya!

There are diamonds in Uranus? Well, isn't that lovely....hurr hurr hurr

The entire existence of "diamond value" is what happens when neo-facist, diamond mine-owners have the helm. They're arguably worthless outside the very small applications they can perform within the industrial scope. If it was oceans of neodymium then I'd say value existed.

bwah hahaha it gets so far shoved up uranus it turns to coal (boo)

oh shit i think i got that assbackwards.... :(

You are making claims to these planets? Have you any idea how much paper work you would need to file for that?

Contact my office immediately. You have cases pending against you. Ignoring this matter will further damage your situation.

That makes Neptune and Uranus the most baller planets ever, son. We just need to find some liquid Dom P and liquid ho's and it's a party 16/7. You see it's because Neptune has only a 16 hour day. Party up in thuuuuuur!

@59 you're, not your... it's like amateur hour over here.