Oct 23 2009Lies!: Germans Have Broken Speed Of Light

THEY DID IT?!

1st.

the prisms are only 3 ft apart.. you can't measure 186k miles/sec in such a short distance, anybody knows this. Where's simplified quantum physics when you need an example

Speaking of black jack taco's GW, next time you're at the bell order 2 of them with lava sauce. Yes they will warn you but insist this is for a project. Forget about the speed of shooting the shit afterwards, they leave burning tracks in your undies like a time traveling delorean would after being struck by lightning

That means...time traveling be possible?

I don't have the article on hand at this moment, but I remember reading YEARS ago of tests being done in a particle accelerator or such where the particles would go so fast, they'd end up at their destination before they left. If that is possible, sending light via quantum tunneling isn't that farfetched.

Feel free to call bullshit on me, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

yeah... that article's from august 2007 though... so i'm guessing they didn't get much further.

WAY TO DRIVE A NAIL THROUGH THE COFFIN OF MY CORPUSCULAR THEORY OF LIGHT.

who do these people thiink they are? seriously.
whoa... late post. I like it!

those scientists can practice quantum tunneling in my tunnel anytime ;D heyo!

Wow sounds super cool ! It is really amazing to have news that germans broken the speed of light. Thanks for the update

I saw that Taco Bell commercial tonight, advertising the black taco.

I almost got Diarrhea just watching that.

Shit GW the redundant-ad-bots found you!
RUN! me and the german scientists will hold them off with our FTL microwaves while you prep the sexy raptor assault squad!
YOU MUST SURVIVE!
*pew pew pew*

I shouldn't drink espresso at 1:30am...

@2: I'd like to quantum tunnel your head into the sun.

Germans move photons faster than the light, but geekologie notice it two years and a half later. That's speed!

-> Published: 12:01AM BST 16 Aug 2007

look on the bright side

"Activate the Nimtz-Stahlhofen Boosters!" sounds like something Picard would like to say :D

Sigh, please read another more relevant theory here, CAUSALITY.

While accelerating of photons, to faster than light speeds was done years ago, they do not arrive before they were sent, the measure or time between two units is infinite. with that in mind then read causality, and you will realize, that they are simply arriving a fraction of time after they were sent.

The concept of time travel or time perversion at high speeds is simply a popular miss-understanding of basic science.

now shut up and get my taco.

xD

There have even been several TV reports on Nimtz´ claims almost ten years ago.

Seems like Geekologie is a bit late to the party. :D

Wow old news or what?

Looks like scientists might increase the speed of light before 2208.

they really need to start brain draining Europe again

I've stated for years that the speed of light is not a barrier as many claim.

@20- Thank you, Mr. Hawking! :)

@23 nice futurama reference

Call me stupid but what infinite energy do photons possess to travel that fast? Can't that energy be harnessed?

Besides, the aluminum falcon can do it

There are a number of examples of faster-than-light movement at this point, actually. Quantum entanglement was the big one when I was finishing up my degree in physics a while ago.

We know that gravity is instantaneous. We don't know how.

Incidentally, #3, of course you can measure at the speed of light only 3 feet apart. Last I knew, and this was advancing rapidly, we could measure all the way down to 4 femtoseconds with precision (4x10^-15 s). The amount of time it would take light to go 3 feet is only on the order of 10^-9 s.

@14 WHERE IS THE GEEKOLOGIE FAN FICTION?

it sounds like they haven't necessarily broken the speed of light, just made a very small something appear somewhere else, and ow do they know it was instantaneous?

@29: Gravity is NOT instantaneous. Actually, according to general relativity, gravitational waves should travel at exactly the speed of light, since like photons, they should be massless. Experiments are currently underway trying to detect gravitational waves.

@19: causality is precisely the reason why it makes no sense according to relativity to have objects traveling faster than light. If an object travels more slowly than light, then you can always choose a reference frame from which the object appears to be at rest, meaning that it is at the same place for all time. (Just like someone in the same moving car as you doesn't appear to be moving with respect to you). That's perfectly fine.

But if an object were traveling faster than light, then you could always choose a reference frame from which the object is everywhere at once, meaning that it is at all places at one single instant. Furthermore, depending on which reference frame you choose, light could be seen to arrive at the detector before leaving the source. This breaks causality (among other things), and therefore should not happen.

Wow, 2007.....really, GW? Really??? really.

Awww.. the photon came before it started.

THE GERMANS BROKE WHAT???!!! Well QUICK...tell them to fix that shit!

Sheez, can't turn my back for one minute without somebody breakin' something! THAT'S IT WORLD!!! GO SIT IN THE CORNER AND TAKE A TIME OUT! Go on...and quit sulking, you all brought this upon yourselves.

Yeah, I can see where we should totally assume they are full of it. They can't possibly have advanced beyond the THEORIES of a physicist from almost a century ago.(who by the way openly believed in ancient fairy tales AND was responsible for a weapon with the capabilities to destroy our entire planet and every living thing in it...three cheers for government scientists!)

And on a side note: The earth is flat, man will never fly, we won't get to space because that's where god lives and a magical ghost spoke the universe into existence...

seriously though...

They managed to make light move at the speed of light?

... Good job I guess.

I like the spaceship with 3 iPhones!

They didn't break shit.

Anyone could have told you this.. 2007? For real? Using stumble upon again?

this reminds me of when i found a newspaper from 1997 and marveled at the scientific breakthrough presented therein.
and this is strange timing, because i'm currently reading brian greene's "the elegant universe" to my 2 year old daughter, and i've been pondering the possibilities presented by a multidimensional reality...in a purely philosophical way, of course. don't ask me to do math, i only have so many digits to count with.

reflected light can travel faster then the speed of light..... i suppose you internet trolls wouldnt know that

ya, it is impossible! But they did it! Burn this hereseies!

yeah, this is 2 years old.

it is broke for human,human walk big feet for break the light soeed.

bah, sex with my ex-husband was far faster than this.

as a dumbass that i am.. i would believe in that... i want to believeeee!!!
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@32

I've never really understood this argument. Perhaps you can enlighten me?

Why is any old presumably arbitrarily selected frame of reference relevant? Then, wouldn't an object traveling faster than light only appear from certain perspectives to be everywhere along its path of travel, and not *everywhere* at once?
And so what if light *is seen* to arrive at a detector apparently before it's left its source? That doesn't necessarily mean that the object that reflected it has arrived before it left.

I don't mean to be adversarial, just asking.

@50

"wouldn't an object traveling faster than light only appear from certain perspectives to be everywhere along its path of travel, and not *everywhere* at once?"

Very true. But the point of relativity is that if you ask a physical question, it shouldn't make any difference which reference frame you choose. So as long as there is even one reference frame where the object is everywhere at once, we're in trouble. But again, you're right that in any other frame, the object will not appear to be everywhere at once.

"Why is any old presumably arbitrarily selected frame of reference relevant? "

It isn't any more relevant than any other frame, but then again it isn't any _less_ relevant either.

The problem with objects travelling faster than light is the following: the order in which things happen depends on the reference frame we choose. So for example, suppose we could make a gun that shoots light "faster than light". Suppose furthermore that one were to use this gun to commit a murder. Then in certain frames of reference, the shooter would have shot the gun before the victim got shot, but in other frames of reference the victim would get shot before the gun went off. We don't observe this kind of behaviour, or anything like it, in nature.

you can shoot it up your ass, freaks!!
my car still wont exceed 130mph.

now, lets go have a taco.

Big News from 2007...

are they crazy scientists... i should say... i should say...

On a side note: If you are using light to "break the speed of light", does that even count? I'm obviously no physicist (hell, I could barely spell it), but it would seem that you wind up only raising the bar at which all of us mere objects would need to reach to "beat" it.

ie. If the speed of Joe is 15mph, and you hook Joe up with a pair of Acme rocket shoes and Joe winds up being propelled at 50mph...would it not still be the "speed of Joe"? It's just that now Joe can go faster. Now then...if Jim came along and could go 51mph (or greater), THEN it would be breaking the speed of Joe.

So basically, I'm just asking if it would be more of a case where the equation would change by which other objects would ultimately be measured by?

God, I need another cup of coffee!!!

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