Jun 19 2009Music Downloader Fined $80,000 Per Song

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Jammie Thomas-Rasset, the lady in the high profile illegal music downloading story that was in the news a while back, just had her second federal trial and has been charged with infringing 24 copyrights (for the 24 songs she downloaded). She's to pay $80,000 per song, a total of $1.92 million. Shiiiiiiiiiit.

As for Thomas-Rasset, she appeared shaken by the verdict but didn't blame the jury. "They did their job," she said, "I'm not going to hold it against them." She added, though, that the recording industry would never collect the money. "Good luck trying to get it from me... it's like squeezing blood from a turnip."


The recording industry lawyers, though clearly pleased, had no desire to showboat this one. The massive damage award, which increased from $9,250 per song in the first trial to $80,000, might sounds like a "win," but will probably stoke grassroots anger against the industry's campaign... if the music business tries to collect. There are hints that it might not.

Hey, I want to download stuff and not have to pay for it. Now, let's see what she got:

  1. Vanessa Williams - Save the best for last
  2. Sheryl Crow - Run baby run
  3. Reba McEntire - One honest heart
  4. Janet Jackson - let's wait awhile
  5. Guns n Roses - Welcome to the jungle
  6. Guns n Roses - November rain
  7. Def Leppard - Pour some sugar on me
  8. Bryan Adams - Somebody
  9. Aerosmnith - Cryin
  10. Linkin Park - One step closer
  11. Green Day - Basket case
  12. Goo Goo Dolls - iris
  13. No Doubt - Hella Good
  14. No Doubt - Different people
  15. No Doubt - Bathwater
  16. Sarah McLaughlan - Building a mystery
  17. Sarah McLaughlan - Possession
  18. Gloria Estefan - Rhythm is gonna get you
  19. Gloria Estefan - Here and we are
  20. Gloria Estefan - Coming out of the dark
  21. Journey - Faithfully
  22. Journey - Don't stop believin
  23. Destiny's Child - Bills, bills, bills
  24. Richard Marx - Now and for ever

Wow, worst $2 million playlist EVER.

Thomas verdict: willful infringement, $1.92 million penalty [arstechnica]

Thanks to Dave and Pete, who have never copied floppies.

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WEAK!!!

Waii.. there's someone knocking at the door

With such shitty taste in music, they should have given her the electric chair.


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I want to know what method she used to download them.

For now I'll just stick to borrowing CD's from the library, ripping them and returning them.

i hear if you change 1 letter in the song's id3 tag they cant bust you

sorry officer i dont know what you are talking about i have never heard of metallica this is a new band metallicat they give away their music for free

i am a lawyer

wait what? they actually bother catchin people for downloading music..

Sixth!

looks like those affected by loss of income from music piracy must substitute extremely luxurious purchases for slightly less luxurious ones or wait until they can afford an extremely luxurious purchase

Lars wants to have a gold-plated shark tank bar installed next to his pool, but must now wait a few months

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Siegfried and Roy's Finite Playlist

why the hell don't people use peerguardian etc?

Good to see that the criminal justice system is working. Thieves need to be punished and understand that this is a crime. It's not "file-sharing"...let's call it what it is: file-stealing.

@12

That's funny because this was a civil court case. If it was a criminal case, she would've went to jail!

Awesome how relevant some of these songs are to her case:

Sheryl Crow - Run baby run
Aerosmnith - Cryin
Gloria Estefan - Rhythm is gonna get you
Destiny's Child - Bills, bills, bills

Holy shit.
That. is. Ridiculous.

i cant wait till someone goes to court for downloading porn
I bet you there are more people downloading porn at any given time then music, i dont see any whores / porn stars sueing someone over 4 minutes of enterntainment, and if you are like me, i sing with the porn music nothing like fap fap fap and singing

We dig dig dig dig dig dig dig in a mine the whole day through
To dig dig dig dig dig dig dig is what we like to do

It ain't no trick
To get rich quick
If you dig dig dig
With a shovel or a pick
In a mine (In a mine)
In a mine (In a mine)

Where a million diamonds
Shine

We dig dig dig dig dig dig dig from early morn to night
We dig dig dig dig dig dig dig up everything in sight

We dig up diamonds
By the score
A thousand rubies
Sometimes more
We don't know what we dig them for
We dig dig digga dig dig

(musical intro)

Hi ho!
Hi ho!
Hi ho! Hi ho! Hi ho!

Hi ho, Hi ho
It's home from work we go
(whistles)
Hi ho, Hi ho, Hi ho

Hi ho, Hi ho
It's home from work we go
(whistles)
Hi ho, Hi ho
(more whistles)

Hi ho, Hi ho
Hi ho, Hi ho
Hi ho, Hi ho
Hi ho, Hum

Hi ho, Hi ho
It's home from work we go
(whistles)
Hi ho, hi ho, hi ho, hi ho

Song #23 "Bills, bills, bills" ...the only way this could have been more prophetic is if Destiny's Child ever wrote a song called " I got butt-rammed in civil court. (club remix)"

you know if you read that song i posted, and read it slow, its actually really really dirty, doesnt matter if you got a little shovel or a little pick, just keep putting it in that mine until you squirt some diamond juice in there so it shines..... you know you will never look at snow white the same way again i bet she got lots of diamond necklaces little white gold digger

FAKE!!!!

This is a complete photoshop job. You can tell its a fake because the shadow's are all wrong.

This is exactly like that scene in the movie Never Back Down where Max went to visit a local manufacturer of candy confections. Against the directions of the proprieter he and the man (chico's) sampled a super fizzy soda, and floated up to the celing, almost meeting his demise. Fortunately he burped himself to the ground.

damn if they caught me maybe pfff i will own them like $3890000ALOT!!00000

GFS comment 13 FTW!!!

#18 BUT nobody read it


That's scary. It's not even like she was a ringleader or anything either... I can understand piratebay being attacked and shut down, but some random consumer who stole 24 songs?

People are gonna download no matter what, and if they like what they download they will buy it anyway. Downloading does not prevent purchases.

def leppard > rest of the songs

Since when do you have to pay for music? I never see a price tag in usenet or torrent sites, they also never charge me for something.
So how is that stealing?

People who download music are not stealing from the artists. They're stealing from the people who are stealing from the artists.

Earlier this week, the RIAA was bitching and moaning about how they've got such a low public opinion. Gee, I wonder why....

ohhh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt thank god i dont download stuff...lol

Wow, talk about matyring someone to prove a point.

It would be worth it just for the Journey! Don't Stop Believin'!!!

wow way to go f_cking american court system... thats fair and balanced

also way to be on the 80,000 per song. I like it when the court tries to make examples of people, because that really makes it fair for the person charged and REALLY stops people from doing bad things.

"People who download music are not stealing from the artists. They're stealing from the people who are stealing from the artists."

QFE

artists still get paid the same amount, believe me. And f_ck, they shouldnt be artists if the only give a d_mn about the money. They make most of their money from concerts anyway.. f_ck you RIAA.

i have never considered movie downloading and music sharing immoral nor illegal. 10 dollars for a 90 minute film is stealing. 15 dollars for a plastic disc with some copied and pasted writing on it mass produced from china is not stealing. it costs cents for the companies to make the cds. CENTS!

..the artist value on each sure as hell doesn't add up to 15 dollars. Truthfully, this has been one of america's greatest monopolies in its history.. and they just dont want to see the cash rolling in. Put a realistic figure on the goddamn music's REAL worth. I do not think that lady gaga deserves the millions shes making do you?

hell it would be nice for artists to actually compete for making music so then they dont put out the continuous garbled machine-gun beat ripoff of every sound that came before it music.

one of those shetty artists she stole from should come forward and pay off her fee for listening to their crap

I'm all for corprate America and all, but lets be realistic. This is about f*cking lawyers. The driving force behind everything that is f*cked up in this world. This is overkill and I am disapointed in the non-lawyer people involved that let it get this far. Total: $80,000 = thats fine, a little redick but fine. Total: $1.92 million = F*CKING CRAZY!!!

@31 "I'm all for corprate America and all...." I don't think I've heard a comment like that since the 80s.

@ 32

Then welcome to the 21 century hippie! Now get a haircut.

"Wow, worst $2 million playlist EVER." OMG LOL..... That was the best tag line ever...

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its friday! suck on a big one, you obese idiots!

OH CRAP!! *Delete, delete, delete* OH CRAP OH CRAP!! *Delete, delete, delete* OH CRAP!! *Delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete* Wait a minute...... I'm not deleting "Puff the Magic Dragon" hehehehe! Can I get a WOOT WOOT, naas?

THIS IS BULLSHIT!

hey, some of those were pretty good

at least she chose some old Green Day

I just downloaded a few million $$$ worth of songs.

That's a ridiculous amount of money. I've always failed to see the point of people suing for exorbitant amounts of money that could never be paid. If they really wanted a better public image, why not make these lawsuits for a reasonable amount of money? Why not make her pay a much smaller amount that she could actually pay back in her lifetime? Someone is more likely to pay $5,000- 10,000 worth of fines than they are $1.92 million dollars worth of fines.

(sighs) This is why I keep telling my sisters to stop downloading music. Our family has such terrible luck that we'd end up being the next name they pulled out their butts & sued.

wow ..$80,000 Per Song

this is definetly a joke. i have millions of friends who download music all day. some of the new eminem releases, hip hop music and so on but they still do buy originals. its like everybody is doing it now. artists get famous fro their top downloads. i bet if the lawyer had any children they would be doing the same :P well theres limewire, ares musicbing download quickclick and so many more download softwares for music,etc. shes just unlucky ....REALLY unlucky

All I have to say is that she must of had the shittiest lawyer on the face of the earth. $1.92 Million uhhhh.....I'd think about appealing that retarded judgement.

I know a guy, who knows another guy, who know's another guy's cousin, who downloaded a $2 billion worth of songs, that's 3000 songs, since E=MC to be cubed...that another guys' cousin, by the way is....

FREEZE!!! NBA!!! You're the 100 luckiest lotto winner, here, take this 2 billion and pay for the....

@30: "15 dollars for a plastic disc with some copied and pasted writing on it mass produced from china is not stealing. it costs cents for the companies to make the cds. "

that is such a bullshit argument. you have to pay SO many people to make a CD. it costs money for the engineers who make the album, the artists, the promoters, the art designers, the studio time, etc. this is why new video games cost $60.

also, why is it people who download 25 songs that get busted, but i (and the rest of you) haven't been?

@45. jordan
Because I for one, am smart enough to move files to a non-shared folder once they finish downloading.
They didn't sue her (or anyone else) for actually DOWNLOADING the music...They are suing the people who are providing the music to be downloaded from, make sense?
I don't allow any of my music or files to be uploaded...Once they finish downloading, I move them to an unshared folder so that my shared folder is always empty.
Prick move, yeah, I know, and all you hardcore torrent people out there will hate me because I am one of the assholes that just takes takes and takes and doesn't give back. But I don't care. Deal with it pussies.

This really irks me. They could walk into most any household this day in age and find alot more than 24 songs. Half of those computers would likely have thousands of songs on them. But why her?

And if this is such a serious offence then why wouldnt they go after the programs like limewire and ares that are set up to help people do this instead of deciding they want a little extra cash and targeting people at random.

srsly, just 24 songs? My friend has 100gb songs in his laptop. How the hell did she got in this case by the way? How did they caught her? If you actually think about it, there are millions of other guys who have downloaded thousands of songs, but never ever get punished, and if you even punish them, what's the point? everyone's doing it...

I broke the dam

@45

Wrong..

I actually work on this side of the field.

Engineers who make it? what?
Album art? what?

The music industry is not full of magic. And there is not SO many people.

This is how it works. Band makes a song. Producer helps edit it into something that he thinks has mass-appeal. (if the band doesn't do the artwork themselves, they hire someone else to do it.. look around your local music store.. lots and lots of GREAT GREAT artwork there) maybe some band photos taken by a photographer. Album gets sent (most of the time electronically) to the factories in china who actually create the disc. This is where the many errors in spelling on cd's come from. And then its shipped back and sent out to all your best buys and walmarts.

Now lets see how many albums lady gaga sold..
2.3 million copies worldwide.
34,500,000 US
-1/2 million for production/shipping - factory workers included.. mostly robots
-10,000 for artwork artist
-1-5 thousand for photographer
-actual artist who makes only a few cents per cd sold
-0 engineers.. what engineers.. there isn't any? Not a nuclear plant
-the companies like best buy and walmart selling the cd for their profit
= rest to production company

There are not SO many people working on it. And all but the production company are getting the same amount.

The question here is put a real value on someone's art. is it good, does it deserve 15 dollars? Maybe. But there are millions of people buying it for that price and it does not add up.

Think about it this way. An inventor comes up with a new shower curtain design that allows for some more space by jutting out in an oval from wall to wall. Yet you can go to walmart and find it for under 10 dollars. And they still make a huge profit on those.. Music can be 100% digital and does not need to be factory produced and what not.. yet it still costs the same off of itunes.

Well there was little doubt she was being tracked, he was busted before for the exact same thing so you think she would've learned her lesson the first time around.

I agree that's a lot of scratch to have to pay back but at the same time she should have know better...i mean seriously, if she didn't get away with it the first time then what possessed her to try that again?

Poor woman get bitchslapped bythe greedy bastards.

Hope they don't pursue additional legal action against her if she does not make an attempt to pay the fine.

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@50 at first i was like HEY LOOK a thought out response.

and then i read it. here is was a sound engineer does: http://www.careerplanner.com/Job-Descriptions/Sound-Engineering-Technicians.cfm

there are a lot more people involved with making a big name pop act's album than just the artist and the producer.

Thank for the list, I'm going to download them just for fun right now.

@33 Thanks for the f'd up economy and s'ty healthcare, you whiny ass titty yuppie. Now get a vasectomy.

This woman was just at the wrong place,time and probably in the wrong life too.Talking about bad luck!

How can she ever possible pay this amount? This is not realistic at all.

I really want to know how they expect her to pay that, if they are at all.
And how the hell do they find this one person on the internet who has downloaded 24 songs, as opposed to 2400+ like everyone else.
I mean seriously, that doesn't even 1% of some of the playlists I have seen.

@53 yea.. thats the one guy you see operating the big soundboards you see.. or in some of the cases, the producer himself.

Hmm I thought it was because she uploaded these songs.... well that's what I read

Hey am also guilty of p2p file-sharing. lets face it in Africa very few souls can afford to get songs either in music shops or online, so its inevitable.

I'm not sure about the rest of the artists, but Sarah McLaughlan's Label, Nettwerk, is a privately owned label out of Vancouver B.C. in Canada. They are both part of the Canadian Music Creators Coalition (CMCC), along with many other Canadian artists, who believe "Suing Our Fans is Destructive and Hypocritical". So I find it's a sad day when a Canadian artist's name is used in an American lawsuit, to sue a fan... when it's something that likely only the American label is going to benefit from.

The trick is not to listen to music from hacks like those listed above. I'm not saying artists like Moby and Radiohead are the best in the world, but they'd never allow their names to be on hateful counter productive antisocial lists such as the one above.

@ The File-Stealing Comment..

Isn't there a picture floating around that explains this ideally?

Stealing means I'm taking it from them, and they no longer possess it.
Copying means I'm making an exact replica. Owner still has original.
Pirating means I'm plundering your booty.


Shame on Jammie, Green day almost had to settle for $5,000 hookers instead of $10,000 hookers that weekend. She is a pure animal who does not care for others and just steals and steals and steals. She belongs in hell along with those African children to take food without paying, want to know what their excuse was? "we're starving and our mother is dying, we had no choice" yeah right buddy, tell that to the warlords, how do you expect them to pillage and rape without a full course meal 4 times a day?

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