May 27 2009Hmm: Birds As Smart As Monkeys, Toddlers

smarter than the firstarded

Figures. I knew it all along.

SECOND!

wonderful, and the bird stays at "toddler smart" stage, instead a toddle becomes GW smart.
ok, maybe NOT that smart.
but still smart enough to know when a rook is going for worms.

not smarter than my brute !! i rock

http://the-turtle-balls.mybrute.com

Watch out GW, at this rate theyll start to write columns in websites...

good to know

...let the cage match begin!

Seen that video...

it only makes sense, we did evolve from birds.

These crows have the ability to adapt to their surroundings in order to survive. Also of note.
The birds certainly appear black to us, yet their vision is finer than ours and they see the ultra violet of the spectrum. To each other they shine and glisten in their generally blue, green and purple iridescent sheen.
LSD / Shroom trippin' little buggers.

Here we go again… allow me to point out that the capability of toddlers to learn speech and languages is unparalleled, even by adults. Do these birds talk much?

@ 10

you can't see ultra-violet yet?
haha fail

@9 that doesn't make sense
@11 according to the experts they do

OLLLDDDDDDD. But still rad.

Than why do they keep flying against windows?

Wha, you mean like "scratch Polly?"

Also, why do they always shit in their own damn water bowl?

Where's thumper, pew, lsd, shumway & ollie today? Am I missing geekologiecon?

In my freezer.

@ 3: ULTIMATE FAIL

Hey #11, this bird might even be smarter than you. Did it ever occur to you that if you raise a toddler in captivity, and prevent it from hearing or seeing others talk, it will be fu**ing retarded..

Well take them out & thaw please, it's quiet in here

Tyrone they're definitely smarter than you, seeing that retardation cannot be established or conceived from captivity since it occurs from birth or head trauma.

@11

Birds do not need to speak or a language, they use telepathy, and in they're minds, they speak with a bronx accent

@ 11: Ravens have been know to mimic all kinds of animals cries, including human speech

And this isn't entirely new. I've always known ravens to be problem solvers. Not even trial and error problem solvers. They would always assess the situation before acting. Tricksy little buggers,

They're so smart they don't even need heads - hence chickens without heads running around

@25 I thought it was the lyre bird that could make all those sounds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOFy8QkNWWs

@12 Landorf
What the human eye cannot see are wavelengths of light that are beyond the visible spectrum. Any wavelength shorter than the color violet is considered "ultra violet" and we, as humans cannot detect that light.
So if you're saying that YOU can see it , then you are either not human, a scientific human anomaly, or and I'm leaning towards this explanation personally, a huge lieing douchebag a-hole licking failtard.

Do you think the birds know the difference between "their" and "they're?" Because if they do, I'm moving in with them.

LET ME OUT!!!

Wow you took the word "retarded" literally, good for you!

Bird brain.......interesting

@Tyrone: all the bird farms and pet shops I've ever been to have only ever sold adult birds, not chicks, so your argument is irrelevant. Am I also taking your silly rant too seriously now?

" since they were raised in captivity, had no other birds to show them how to do it. "

little confused there?

So their parents, and all the thousands of other birds at the bird farm don't count? I see.

What are you talking about? I'm saying that this bird was still able to solve the problem while being raised in captivity and not seeing others do the same thing. A toddler cannot be raised in that same environment and be able to solve problems or even contemplate speech because they need social conditioning unlike the bird. so who wins?

even if a human was raised to an adult in a captive environment he or she would still be unable to speak.

naas - I'm around, It's just been crazy busy at work. Nice to know I'm thought of!

CAWCAWCAW

Listen, the whole point of the experiment was to prove the cognitive abilities of the bird—the bird wouldn't have learned this from other birds in the wild, because there aren't humans in the wild setting up experiments with handy bits of wire. Also, animals in captivity were once wild (or at least their progenitors were), and they are kept in groups, so there's plenty of time for them to pass on the mystical knowledge.

You know in the actual article they don't even mention the word toddler making all this pointless. birds are smart ok

I'm not generally one of these, "Old!" people, but damn...

@29

Amen.

Go hang yourselves, you illiterate f.ucks.

I saw this in a documentary thing years ago.

This made me go get some kfc.

http://std-aids.mybrute.com

They have brains size walnut but it all works.

McGuyver birdies! Awesome!
@18 (Naas) - Geekologiecon! I'm in - when and where? Is Daisy coming? I bet it would remind her of that scene from NeverBAckDownCon 17 when...

This is a more elaborate discussion about the intelligence of birds:

http://tinyurl.com/543blg

Pretty amazing.

I bet toddlers would be able to do it......
....if they liked f.uck.ing worms.
Give the toddlers a magnifying glass and they would cook and eat the bird.

CA-CAW!

"Mr Bird and colleagues from Queen Mary, University of London, conducted the study with five-year- old rooks Cook, Connelly, Fry and Monroe, which were hand-reared from fledglings. "

contradicts your last statement Leonidas. even further, the birds were able to solve the problem at the first attempt , without any training whatsoever.
Contrary to toddlers, who have to be trained from the beggining by learning others, and if they don't? They will lack basic developmental skills.
Obviously the birds in this case hold the evolutionary advantage of being able to survive in complex environments.

cool

Y'know, I thought we had a truce at comment 40. As I pointed out in the beginning of my comment, this kind of behaviour could not be learned from other birds in the wild, considering that there generally aren't little baskets of worms in tubes and pieces of wire lying around in the wild. In any case, toddlers that are lucky enough to be raised by humans grow up to tote pellet guns, which pretty much cancels out any evolutionary advantage that the birds have.

Yeah sorry got fired up again, truce

FAKE!!!!

This is a complete photoshop job. You can tell its a fake because the shadow's are all wrong.

This is exactly like that scene in the movie NeverBAck Down where Max moved into an apartment house and the landlord was planning on killing him and selling his meat. Unnfortunately the landlord's daughter fell in love with Max,and eneded up betraying her father to the mole people.

MUST SEE THIS!!! ;)

http://mystical-mona.mybrute.com

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If anyone remembers Hitchcock's "The Birds" then they would remember that these kind of birds were the masterminds behind the attacks. Never turn you back on a bird.......or toddlers for that matter.

@56

I thought it was the Love Birds. Maybe I need to watch it again.

Wonderful. Gather enough of these birds and send them to all the banks so they can handle loan applications.

wow. get a life and focus on something real.

Crow`s mind interesting .... smart birds though