Feb 27 2009XBox Live's Don't Ask Don't Tell Policy

I love that vagina. But hey, penises are cool too. Especially mine. Ladies? Gentlemen?

GW, you can suck my dong any day.

i'm into the dick, but i do love my vagina!
hellooo geekologie writer.

O_O
Why are people so easily offended by thing they don't understood...
HEY GW!

In all seriousness I would suck Geekologie Writer's penis with my mouth.

First!!

wow...ppl on xbox live thinkn they are cool and all amazing cuz they sit at home all day playing who gives a puck what they think lol

the majority of online players are young and impressionable. i don't want my kids to hear about sex from playing games online. talking smack happens a lot too and some players talk it too far.

undecided. I think I might be in love with a gay man but that could be more work than it's worth since I am a woman. Let's see.... what other options do I have? Was I even going to go out of the house today? I don't know.

Im totaly into both, men, women, merhaphrodyte, but on xbox live, no. Screw the support team, they pretty much shut her down for being a lesbian saying its offensive.

@7 If your kids are old enough to be using the internet unsupervised then I hope you've already done the responsible thing and given them a facts of life talk. Srsly, if parents communicated better with their offspring about sex we wouldn't have so many of these child-parents running around the place.

Also, why are gay people 'offensive'? As long as they're not chasing you damn and ramming their willies into you / equivalent lesbinim activity then what does it really have to do with you?

* down rather than damn.

I can spell haha!

fashion bug

Ra ra, I find your life offensive, also I'm willing to bet one of my beautiful heterosexual testicles that your child uses the n-word when "talking smack" because of the anonymity afforded on xbox live, take a look at you own failed life and why it is that you think what someone else does in the privacy of their own bedroom, kitchen table, underside of their office desk(back me up on this GW) is offensive.

I agree with Microsoft on this. There is nothing discriminatory about the policy. They don't want any talk of sex. Fine.

(F U C K)

I would like to see if they actually ban someone for posting that they are heterosexual in their profile.

I sense a lawsuit coming on. This is blatant discrimination. "People are to retarded to be tolerant of your sexual orientation, so instead of punishing them for harassing you(because there are far too many even though harassment is probably against our ToU) we are going to put all the blame on the gayfolk."
And really Ra Ra, if you let your kids have access to the internet in any way shape or form, they already know more about sex than you do. And you can thank Wikipedia!

Why is listing your preferred sexual orientation important? Is XBOX live some kind of dating service?

Id have to agree with banning someone is a bit much but the policy seems ok to me. Knowing you munch carpet or smoke the pole is something I dont care about when Im shoving .50 caliber bullets up your ass (and I know you like it).

@7
yeah thats bad chief,, thinking that sexual orientation alone is offensive means you have issues, also, isn't your kid sitting there wasting muthafukaz left and right, HEADSHOT HEADSHOT HEADSHOT, that's not offensive? I would much rather my kid "don't have one, don't want one but ish happens" know what being gay is before I let him start tearin virtual brains up with his scoped rifle!

and yeah like others have stated, its not like her profile had a pic of her with a strap on and a caption like "come get fk'ed ladies" or anything, so essentially you find simply stating that "you are gay" offensive.. well I am straight! is that offensive?

There was actually a guy who got banned for using his real name. It was Richard Gay-something.... The details are fuzzy, but he's pissed that his real name was deemed offensive.

What was in the profile?

A simple: "Lesbian"

Or something like: "I am a woman who loves to eat pussy, raw pussy, hell yeah I'l eat your pussy bitch!"

Or something like: "I despise cock, i hate cock so much, dang, I need some pussy now, sooooo much pussy I go insaneeee!"

PS3 Rules...

that just means she likes what i like

$.02 loves the cock, and has a vagina.

There are a few things silly about this;
1.) Why does it matter what your sexual preference is if you're playing a game?
2.) If you are worried that your children will be influenced by strange, different, random people on xBox live... Why in the hell are you letting your impressionable children play a game in an environment that encourages violence, fould language, and harrassment? If you don't want them "exposed" to it, then don't expose them to it. The only issue there is that you may actually have to pay attention to your own children.
3.) xBox handled this badly. Very, very badly. No one should've been banned.

HEY! i got an idea lets just segregat the whole thing.If you people are skeered that your "kids" are gunna be exposed to something your afraid to talk to them about then lets just make it to where if your under 18 you cant enter a room with adults.....then we adults can play in peace and disscuse whatever we want.....oh and m$ is messed up for not backin that girl whats next they gunna ban african americans if they are harassed and chased out a game lobbys for being black

damn - I re-read that, I was not trying to imply that being gay is strange. I'm hoping you guys got my actual point despite my poor word choice.

Richard Gaywood was banned even though thats his real name.

A website did a test after this where one of them set up an account and put heterosexual in his account then the rest complained to see if he would get banned.

He did.
24hrs and had to change the description.

It's not just gay people that are being banned but everyone who feels so insecure about their sexuality that they need to pointlessly broadcast it in an area heavily populated with children.

It is gay people that don't realise that EVERYONE who broadcast their sexuality that gets a ban (they are told not to in the rules and regulations that they agree to when making an account) and scream discrimination.

I wonder if the would be as outraged if it was a straight person that got banned?

@7 Really? Impressionable? Okay, so stay away from the gays but let your impressionable sponges play games where they shot people in the head, steal cars etc....okay sure....

On a side note the people that chased her and harassed her should also be banned if she can remember their gamertags and complain.

That's ridiculous. The kind of garbage I hear spewed from the mouths of children on XBOX Live is far worse and more offensive than finding out a fellow gamer likes to suck the muff.

And to Travis Cotton-- it's not that it's important to have the option to list it, but for someone to be harassed by other gamers when it is listed and then be punished for listing it is pretty unjust. Though I certainly agree with you that unloading a round up someone's pee-hole should be the real focus here, some folks find comfort in forming online posses with like-minded gamers. And if foul-mouthed 12-year-olds from Indiana can find each other and be friends on XBOX Live, why not lesbians?

FAKE!!!!

This is a complete photoshop job. You can tell its a fake because the the shadow's are all wrong.

This is exactly like that scene in the movie Never BAck Down where Max was trying to cancel the self destruct but the mechanism wasn't installed on his level yet. He had to climb a ladder to another level. The laser beam kept shooting him but he finally made it in the nick of time.

My penis has Moebius Syndrome. Its eye just sits there and stares at me. And every once in a while it drools

i must say i love a little of both, best of both worlds if i may. oh and GW gimi a call some time we can x box live together... now that would be offensive

How freaking ridiculous ! how can you possibly argue that the poor young impressionable children shouldn't be exposed to someone's sexual preference. THEY ARE PLAY C.O.D.5 etc.... parenting fail.... no sex but blowing the fcuk out of everyone is ok.....go to hell, none of you deserve to be parents anyways...get a grip on reality

Which moral standard are we pretending to have today Microsoft?

When logging onto Xbox Live the other day to play COD I was greeted by several kids, one of them announcing that he was around 10. Some of the standard words that were used were n****r, f*g, f*ck, c*nt, sh*t, as*h*le, jew, wetback and p*ssy. More than one kid slipped in that they were in high school. Anyone that plays COD usually leaves their headset off because of the irritating kids that were shat out by their parents and left alone with a machine to babysit them.

I love how people keep mentioning the "impressionable children " there shouldn't be children playing online unattended anyway. And what was she impressing on "the children" anyway? That lesbians exist? Oh the horror!

I think the ban was ridiculous and the policy is silly. What's wrong with embracing a little individuality? Does this mean that I can get banned if people complain that my black avatar is offensive?

Personally I love the vagina... well maybe not love, but i really like it, you know, as more than a friend.

I agree with what some people are saying that there is really no reason to say you're a lesbian on your profile. If you're a gamer you know the kind of people that are on Xbox Live, it really should come as no surprise that you're going to be made fun of by a bunch of kids. That's why i make it a point to not write age: 23, Sex: male, other information: heterosexual. Instead I run up to dead people on cal of duty and teabag them. no gay dude would ever dunk his virtual balls in a dead man's mouth.

you're missing the point. If you want to be gay, be gay. That's up to you. It's M$'s policy, however, that clearly states "In regards to sexual orientation, for gamertags or profiles we do not allow expression of ANY type of orientation, be that hetero or other."

It clearly states ANY TYPE, and then specifically states hetro. What does that mean? It means ANY TYPE. If you put ANYTHING about your sexual orientation, you are breaking their policy. A lawsuit? I highly doubt it.

About the harassment, would there have been ANY harassment had she not put on her profile that she was a lesbian? I highly doubt it. Therein lies Microsoft's defense. They will state, "The purpose of the sexual orientation policy is so that players will not be harassed for their preferences or lifstyle. The fact that said user ignored the policy and therefore was harassed is no fault but her own." Case closed.

Nice #15 very nice, i would also like to see that but don't have an xbox so can not try it

Xbox is gay anyways....

Per the online rating of games on Xbox Live:
"Experience may change with online play"

meaning online could be rated M (mature+) or worse.

Most have missed the point here, it seems. The lez agreed to the terms of service and broke them. I think she needs a spanking...by a girl...broadcast live on a webcam...where XBL straight teens can enjoy it.

lol "equivalent lesbian activity"

@7

It's to bad Ollie Williams has already stuck his big ol' dirt dick in your children. If you hate the gays, you might as well start hating the coloreds too. Just sayin'.

NO GAYS. She shouldn't even be allowed to play..anything. Or DO anything.

@44

And you shouldn't be allowed to breed. AND akward TyPINg is annoyING.

Lies. Lesbians totally don't even play video games.

god, this is so ridiculous.

#7, if you don't want your "kids to hear about sex from playing games online", then you bought the wrong system. Give them a DS.

oh wait, then you'll be complaining about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orpgUPNSRPI

i have a penis and enjoy the company of the vagina.....Ladies????

also i'm changing my name to Gaylord Willie-Rod Gaywood on xbox.....lets see them ban me now bitches!!!!

oh yeah: have a vagina, love the cock, but enjoy lesbian porno > hetero porno.

yeyeye

Finally a comment worth reading #37.

Xbox live is purely a product for the consumer to enjoy. They are a company set out to turn a profit– to expect them to portray a moral code or to look to them to endorse or reject a sexual orientation is asinine.

I believe their policy is fair and your argument is sound #37.

Let's talk seriously, first off I think Microsoft is right this time... anyway they should ban people wich says they are hetero too, anyway at the moment I am not concerned about any similar case. As an owner of an Xbox 360 and Live gamer I can totally agree with this, I do not really care about people's sex orientation and i do not want to know it either, once you log in Live you're there to play and enjoy games, not to flirt or date, at least I do not care of it, If you want to date with anyone there's plenty of on line portals wich let you flirt even meet people or date them so Live as a dating service is pointless.

By the way, for all the "haters" and family guys who stand for "I don't want my kids watching any kind of sexual content" please... you sound ridiculous since you're buying games like GTA IV, Gears of War, Mortal Kombat, Quantum of Solace, or even Assassin's Creed so what's the deal??? you do not want your kids to know about sex but you do not care if they rip, cut and pwn hard people cutting arms or heads, "it's just a game" that's pretty FALSE of you to take that dual morality.

I can guarantee you they may not know what a gay or lesbian or hetero guy is, but I can assure you they will know how to cut up your throat if you do not watch them so... f*** off with that FAKE MORAL and open your mind you blind people :P.

I said.

Qui-Gon

xbox live is a parasite to the internets bandwidth. Kids talking shit to each other and half the time they speak different languages. I say ban online gaming to give even more bandwidth to bittorrent. If you want to play games with strangers go out and bring a bum off the street into your home, it's what Jesus would do. Meth addicts can really shred Guitar Hero and Rock Band on expert.

lol @ 7. "the majority of online players are young and impressionable. i don't want my kids to hear about sex from playing games online." So you didn't know they bang hookers then shoot them and steal the money in GTA then?

sexual tendences shouldn't be in any case a reason to get banned anywhere.
but when you agree the terms of service (Those you never read and always accept in order to get the fun asap) then there's no way back.

and GW, i'm a girl that loves boys, but more important, that loves you (L)

Agreed with BLP, in fact it's kinda funny how they blame on sexual content but they do not even know what the hell are buying to their kids, they are not even responsible of what they watch on the internet but that's their total lack of control over their sons, then... bad thing happens.... and who has to be blamed? INTERNET OF COURSE!! -.-

This is so ridiculous and discriminatory. I see so many things wrong with this that I don't even have the time to list them all. Especially since every few seconds coworkers are passing by my cubicle and its not even my lunch time yet. >.> BUT ANYWAY.
WTF? "Dont want kids hearing about sex" theres so many things wrong with that statement. Why is the mention of being either gay or straight impressionable onto a child regarding sex. Obviously in literal statement of the word, SEXual orientation at first immediatly implies something only sex based. But duh, being gay or lesbian doesnt only fall onto the fact that you have sex with the same gender, but find companionship and have relationships with the same gender.
Being gay doesnt ONLY mean having sex with a guy. Being lesbian doesnt ONLY mean having sex with a girl. Obviously it does include those things, but duh people there is more to it.
If its offensive to have it stated that you are gay because "omg it makes the kids think of sex" then it should be equally offensive to have it implied you are straight by not putting an orientation on your profile because, guess what? The kids can just as easily assume sex from a gamer profile like that!

Idiotic move microsoft, I hope soon enough this goes to court and they have to take responsibilities for their actions, or lack there of. And if they are found justified in their statements of dont ask dont tell. Id hope they could atleast use more effort in cracking down on those 'tards I run into on live cosntantly that use more offensive terms and drop the N-bomb every few words. THAT is something they need to effing block against.

---Oh yah and I'm straight and stickly dickly, though I do appreciate a good set of TATAS BABY!

Why do people STILL think that their kids don't already know everything there is to know about the sickest kinds of sex out there by the time they're 12. I mean yeah it's sad but come on. Your child has seen 2girls1cup and has probably jerked off to it. Accept it.

@57. The problem with taking M$ to court is every time they are fined they pass the fee to their customers. Taking their money because of legal fees and fines will just make Windows 7 more expensive.

whoops, I meant 56, Val.

Me: Do you think that homosexuals should trumpet their orientation in public?
Cleverbot: I don't think so, knock on wood. Lol.

Does pedo-sexuality count?

@61

yes

Bout gotdamn time!

Maybe most of you didn't actually read past the opening sentence (In which the Geekologie Writer deliberately lied about the policy), or maybe you're all just stupid.

The policy says NO statements of sexual orientation, including heterosexual is allowed. Gays do not deserve mistreatment, but nor do they get to claim "gay discrimination" when they refuse to follow the rules that apply to everyone regardless of orientation.

@ 64, thanks for clearing that up Mr. Ballmer.

All joking aside..I agree with #64.

You break the rules and you get a punishment.

It's not discrimination. She didn't follow the rules..simple as that.

Recently, quite a few celebrities were said to appear on " C e l e b m i n g l e. C o M " It is a hot celebrity and millionaire singles club, OMG!!! They are indeed so rich that they feel boring ..

Xbox live is where I go to flex my shit talking cussing skills anyway.
WTF are kids doing playing that crap.

they should give her a free year for this.

If my sexual orientation is said to tend towards millionaires and celebrities (which I've seen quite a few of recently), am I allowed to mention that?

@69

No. And you're #69.

Ha! Lucky number 69! Can't wait to tell my… partner about this one.

thats super gay that they did that

This is lam3. Microsoft's policy isn't really that big of a deal. I agree with most of you about rather having fun and gaming online than looking for a date. However, this lady really should have been warned, not banned. Honestly, I've never read the fine print. It's probably not a good practice of mine, but still. If I break a rule, just let me know. I'll stop doing it. I'm sure she would have erased whatever it was that caused so much commotion. Who wants to lose their gamer score, anyway?

Oh. And I like the vag.

Mmmm... Good.

As for bigot number seven, I feel sorry for your kids. We're coming to a new age of sexual understanding. Sheltering them from simple "gay/straight" orientation is going to make coping that much more difficult for when we get over this hump. And hump we shall. Everyone. Hump. Hump. Hump. Oh, and it's totally not gay if you say "no-homo."

I like how people keep pointing out the policy like it makes the argument go away. The argument is that the policy is flawed. Banning all speak of sexual orientation "including hetero" is obviously a way to marginalize gays. There is no reason one should not be able to represent who they are without ramifications. I'm sure there would be less touting of the grand policy if it discriminated against a majority group.

Alright, I am tired of hearing about what people don't want their kids learning on XBOX Live. First and foremost you need to be realistic with your children and really decide if gay/lesbian is more offensive than "Bitch I'ma blow you head off with this grenade and rip your guts out with (insert weapon here)".

I hear this shit from 8 year olds on XBL each day.... so what's worse, the word lesbian or the blood bath orgies of each game?

When giving a child an XBL account you should be prepared for them to learn about things like gay, lesbion, anal beads, double dongs, fisting... I could go on and on and on.

XBL is not exactly children friendly especially if you are a crazy morman and want your kids to have unrealistic and naive world views.

-Peace - Rob

mormon is spelled "Mormon," you illiterate Sodomite.

Cade,

I doubt if she was asked to remove it she would.

She would probably have seen it as discrimination, going on the the fact she seen the no-exceptions policy as discriminatory, because if you feel the need to proclaim you sexual preference everywhere you go you're waay too sensitive about the issue than you should be and will see everything as a bigoted attack.

@77

That may be true. We don't know. I used myself as the example. I would if I was razzed for something I posted. Given that, it was unclear if they even asked her to do it. They may have just pulled the plug on her account, and to me, that's not really that cool, even if there is an agreement she signed.

I hope we get more information about what was done and what's going to be done about it. To each his/her own.

And I agree. I've met too many people with a certain characteristic that are too sensitive about it. Oh well, I say. Oh well.

Gay! Me, GAY! I also had no love for microsoft or their X-box anyway, so this means dick-all to me, which actually sounds like a good thing.

@ 25
Being gay is strange?

@ 35
Lesbians exist? I thought the whole homosexual thing was just an offensive joke.

I'm a unicorn... just putting it out there... message me if interested

bam@badam.com

*sighs* People get over it already! It's probably some Christians who think the bible is real... Which I have yet to find out in my investigations... (still don't believe so none of you try to 'compell' me into beliveing your "Bullsh*t")

Sorry if I offended any Christians but I love gay people! They actually buy you presents on your birthday! Heterosexual bastards... didn't get me a Giratina Plushie... *crys*

Yeah, this isn't a big deal. There is no gay discrimination occuring here. The policy says don't mention sex or you will be banned. She said she was a lesbian, and was banned.

Case closed.

Oh, and #56. You're an idiot. Next time you try make a point (or simply go off on a tirade) make sure it has something to do with the current debate.

You should try launching some investigations into the English language. You might find out that "compel" only has one "l." You remind me of a Mormon who's missing his second "m."

@82

Don't be sorry for offending Christians. They think their God hates fags (even though he created them). That is what's offensive. I've met Christians that are the most close-minded, one-sided people on the planet. Granted, they're not the only ones, but that fact that their entire religion revolves around compassion and forgiveness highlights this.

LOL! @ 84.
I love lesbians! To watch them at least......... Bisexual chicks are even better because they kiss boys AND girls! I'm just full of love folks. WOMEN WHO FEEL UNLOVED, I OPEN MY ARMS TO YOU!! (No uglies please).

I'm siding with the gay community on this one. if those kids want to yell hate speech they can do it on their own front lawns, not where i play video games. if i wanna hear what they have to say i'll go talk to them about it. Granted, i'm not gay myself, i'm gonna marry princess zelda (that's right GW, I already saved her in every castle imaginable). but feel for them. besides, are populations are getting too big anyway, and we could make money off of them getting married!

A little bit of knowledge, like a lot of stupidity, is a dangerous thing. The only people personally created by the God of the Christians were Adam and Eve. "God made me like this" is a cop-out used by everyone who wants to stand on both sides of the line.

*are should be our.. you can't edit yourself

@84

You shood get a job as a word inspecter. Ewe really show how productive such a persen can be. You remind me of a wiener without the pee.

@85

Would that be like hating an entire group of people based on a single inaccurate generalization about them that's based on a few bad experiences?

@84: I remind you of a wiener without the pee? I'm not so sure how to take that up. Don't you think you're being bigoted against all the golden shower fetishists that read this blog?

i'm a vagina kind of guy, but would consider a GW tryst if the oppurtunity presented itself....

@ 91

I don't know how you should take it either. I could have thought it through a bit better, but I figure that denies the spirit of the internet. You remind me of a bruise without the you?

I like vagina and dick, and I'm pretty much in the middle with that.

I can see where the lez would be coming from with this...being gay can be a big part of someone's life. I'm of the opinion that the XBL policy on this is discriminatory against *anyone* who wants to show their sexual orientation- and I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to list it. It's not as if they're saying (like some of us mentioned above) "loves to suck the pussy, rug muncher for life, message me for hot sexx0rs!" I don't see why someone shouldn't be able to say "I'm five feet and wear glasses, I have brown hair, I'm lesbian/het/gay, and I love to play Halo"...meh.

That said, yeah, she probably should have read through the terms and conditions, but still, it does reek of discrimination upon first reading, and I think Microsoft should have given their reaction a bit more thought...bad press for the fail. I'm not an XBOX Live player...so can anyone tell me, is it blantantly obvious that you're not allowed to post your sexual orientation/etc? Do they limit you on anything else you can post, or just that?

@78 cade,

I know from the guys who did the "hetero" test on XBL the next day that ms banned them for 24hrs and asked them to change it.

Now I'm thinking that they did the same with this girl but she doesn't want to include that part as it might hurt her argument.

GW, you are a god, pure and simple. They really need to rename the intarwebs after you. er, somehow.

GIANT ASS TITTIES!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE EM

7. ra ra - February 27, 2009 10:24 AM

the majority of online players are young and impressionable. i don't want my kids to hear about sex from playing games online

OK? So you don't want your kids to know that its possible for a girl to like a girl or vise versa but it's totally cool if my kids stab the hell out of my Halo character? Or shoot all the Natzi-Germans. Or even blow these zombies heads off?

The French were right...Stupid Americans...

(btw- I am straight and an american...just in case anyone wants to bring that up as a come back)

Ive been putting up with homophob cra-p all day and now i come home to see more people harassing gays, im only a gay rights supporter (not gay myself), and this is really the work of some stupid, republican, christians; no doubt!
pop quiz: How do you identify a republican?
answer: you ask them for their opinion on gay rights! it'll no doubt be "f gays, im christian and i hate non beleivers, ITS NOT NATURAL!" they leave in a hummer, that natural? heres your answer, no!

Hmpf. Discriminating against someone based on their sexual orientation is against the Canadian Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights outweighs any and all laws, regulations, contracts and rules. Only the constitution outweighs the Bill of Rights. As such, if the gay broad lived in Canada, she could file a lawsuit against Microsoft Canada and win very easily.

Still, Microsoft and all of its employees should burn in hell for doing what even the army won't dare do.

So EFFYOU MS! EFFING KKK BASTARDS!

@100- wanna move to canada with me? finally a place where peace is law! but only if you arent a guy, cuz im not gay

why do you need to put your sexual orientation in your profile anyway? you're just playing a game. lame.

@95

Neat experiment.

Well, there's no better way to get sympathy than skewing the facts a little bit or withholding information.

Ugh. Why is this even an issue?

Sexual orientation has nothing to do with gaming.

Just like religion has nothing to do with politics or school.

Keep that shit separate so everyone can be included equally.

Wow. So what Microsoft is saying is that it's OKAY to gay bash in the virtual world?

Mermaids. I'm telling you, once we actually get a hold of one, they're gonna be the next big thing. Try and ban me on that one, XBox!

@104- i feel your pain

OMG- who cares!!!!!?

Hom here! =D

@fSN -Hug!- I'm so glad you have a brain...

99- Gotta love the people complaining about discrimination and generalizations... while doing the same exact thing...
I'm a republican, I am NOT Christian, and I think we should make civil unions the only option for EVERYONE and let "marriage" be a church thing...

If we preach about acceptance, don't forget to accept the other side.

Wow... now THATS a messed up thing to do on microsoft's part. I don't blame you for not wanting to buy their product ever again.

@110- ok, fine, maybe not all republicans are bad but the way today was going, repubs were my issue with gay rights, im glad some of you still care, cant say i still respect most of you though

112- If it makes you fell better, I can send Cheney over to give you a hug... muahahahahaha...

My god. Once again, I am compelled to post against my will by the sheer amount of dumbshit comments posted on this website.

First off, they cannot and won't get sued. You can't sue a company because they won't let you express the fact that you're a faggot on the internet. They run it, they can do whatever they want. This isn't a job application or zoning restrictions.

Second of all, idiot parents claiming that their children's empty minds (they can't be anything else if the parents are this retarded) are still malleable and might be negatively affected by a raging lesbian mule on the internet need to wake up to reality. This is the internet. Anything goes. I shouldn't have to explain this further. If you fail to comprehend that fact, arguing with you is a fruitless endeavor and you might as well just go monitor little Jimmy during his Structured Playtime.

I definitely like guys.

Down with intolerance :)

And I'm a girl. Hahaha.

'Weak. I say XBox embrace the gay community and ban all the harassers.'

If they actually would I might consider using their service.

its really simple

If microsoft dont ban the harrasses they support discrimination against homosexuals.

case closed - give chick $10mill

@57

But the point is is that she was just saying that she was lesbian. Like in facebook or Live Journal. She wasn't going around showing it off, someone discovered it and began to harass her. That's it! There is nothing more! It's like I found your secret stash of Barbie dolls in the Garage and began to tell people about it. At work , The store, the mall. Publicity is good or bad. People need to see that any publicity should be directed in a neutral way. The attention that she got was undeserved and, biased, like FOX news. The point is, that many people don't like gays, why do they seek out for torment? It was on her bio. You would've had to read it to find out. Also if no one wants her to play games with their children, what kind of parents are they? Do they let their children play M rated games? Or does she play childish games. In that case, what are Parents doing playing them? We may never know. The problem here was that she was harassed, discriminated and banned for no reason.

Check here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/codeofconduct.htm

@51
But the point is is that she was just saying that she was lesbian. Like in facebook or Live Journal. She wasn't going around showing it off, someone discovered it and began to harass her. That's it! There is nothing more! It's like I found your secret stash of Barbie dolls in the Garage and began to tell people about it. At work , The store, the mall. Publicity is good or bad. People need to see that any publicity should be directed in a neutral way. The attention that she got was undeserved and, biased, like FOX news. The point is, that many people don't like gays, why do they seek out for torment? It was on her bio. You would've had to read it to find out. Also if no one wants her to play games with their children, what kind of parents are they? Do they let their children play M rated games? Or does she play childish games. In that case, what are Parents doing playing them? We may never know. The problem here was that she was harassed, discriminated and banned for no reason.

Check here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/codeofconduct.htm

Sorry 57, forgot the proper number. Please forgive me.

Looks like my next computer will be a mac.

If word of this really gets around to the GLBT community, it has the potential to hurt Micro$$$oft where it counts.

That's so gay -- I mean stupid. It's been said a 100 times now, but, kids are ONLINE, on the INTERNET, unless you're sitting beside them watching every move they make, there's no telling what they can get into! I'm 16 now, I was on the internet a few years ago (when I was 12 I think) I came across some porn, not that hard to find on the internet and I've been downloading porn ever since then! But seriously, if you don't want your kids hearing anything sexual, then take their f*cking internet way! I too, hear 8 year olds say words that even I wouldn't say on X-Box Live and World of Warcraft. Blowing someone's brains out with a shotgun, sniper rifle, hand gun etc, with all the blood and gore isn't bad, but when someone states that they are a lesbian is? Robbing a store in a game isn't bad but stating they are a lesbian is? Dealing drugs and killing other drug dealers isn't bad but saying they are a lesbian is?

People need to f*cking grow up, if someone's sexuality is something you don't want your kids to see, keep them off the f*cking internet, because weather you like it or not people are going to say it.

I, personally, beleive that the parents should watch what their kids are getting into, not us having to watch what we say. I was playing WoW once and I swore, some a*sh*le whispered me saying "Watch your language, kids play this game." Well, put the f*cking language filter on a*sh*le, I shouldn't have to watch what I say because your kid is playing an online game where "Game experience may change during online play" which means, people can say whatever the f*ck they want to!

Oh noes! I swore! Ban me quickly before I corrupt another fragile little mind with my bad language!

Edit: Tried posting this, but for some f*cking reason I can't f*cking swear which is seriously f*cked, so I have to put a f*cking star in every f*cking swear word I f*cking post! F*ck!

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Sorry, I didn't realize I typed so much.

@113- OMG!! im sorry! Please dont send cheney!!! no one deserves that! how could you wish such disaster onto any person?!!?

Seriously everyone should just chill.

She broke a policy that applies to everyone and got punished for it. That is not discrimination. I will admit, however, that it is a poorly executed policy and the punishment was a bit harsh. The idiots who harassed her should be banned, that in my opinion is actually a punishable offense and it should be the bigger issue. It should be much easier to report griefers and M$ should be chasing this course of action if they actually want to make XBL a friendlier, safer place for everyone. I personally don't give a stuff about your orientation while I'm gaming, It doesn't offend me, but neither does it interest me. I'm there to play a game with you, not pick up.

Nextly (it's a word), if you don't want your kids exposed to sexuality, violence, bad language and the like that's up to you. Follow the bloody ratings on the games and pay attention to what they actually get up to online. You will probably find that it is the other kids who are the biggest offenders, not actually anyone old enough to have an orientation.

As for the Christian bashers here, you are just as intolerant as anyone discriminating against anyone else. I'm not saying they are always right and I can see what you don't like about the stereotypes, but try to remember, they are stereotypes.

Anyhoo, to cap off the proceedings:
I like munching muff and putting my penis in it.
I am straight. My wife is Bi, but that is a whole other kettle of fish :p
I am a believer that is best broadly described as Christian.

I think that the M$ policy is flawed. Why is disclosing your sexuality so taboo? The policy reeks of gay discrimination covered with a thin veneer of bullsh*t.

I'm a gay guy, so I do have something of a bias, but it seems to me that the arguments that exist for the institution of this particular clause in the Online Policies are pretty weak. You don't want your child's weak, fragile intellect damaged by the existence of gays and lesbians? Or that their equally fragile morality be shattered by acknowledging that sexuality exists? If your child can't handle it, I seriously doubt that playing on XBL is the most prudent choice of activities for your bubble-baby.

Us queer folk are a little riled up about 'lesbo-gate 2009', but like the good folks at gaygamer.net said, "it is high time this type of unfair treatment stops. My only issue is I'm not sure exactly what to do about it."

There is a quick fix for this whole problem, going forward.

Whenever someone creates or edits their profile, send it through a quick screening program that looks for certain words. If words like "gay", "lesbian", "straight" are anywhere in the submitted profile, throw up a warning/reminder message to the effect that inclusion of orientation is against the TOS, and refer them to that section of the TOS. But there should still be a "Post anyway" button if the words are being used out of context etc.

Having said that I personally think it is a dumb policy, but I see where Microsoft is coming from.. its the easy way out. They really should be banning all the harassers, but then they would lose paying customers, and the harassers would claim that they were incited into it. Its one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't situations".

sorry, gang, i'm a cock-lovin' homo and i think the policy is sound. i'd much rather just not bring it up than to deal with the underaged douchebags on xbl who learned to hate from their douchebaggy parents.

but then, i don't have any reason to tell folks that i'm gay on xbl, don't see much point to it. still, there are lots of players who like to play with like-minded folks, and i don't really see the harm in letting them find those folks. AND it has nothing to do with trying to date online, that argument is just so insanely ignorant.

from M$'s position, it's a lot easier to just support "don't ask don't tell" than to try to run around banning everyone who says "faggot". not to mention if they did that, they'd have almost no user base left.

@123 you're pretty frickin awesome, and yeah, i can't stand the fact that swearing on wow is a bannable offense even tho someone has to CLICK THE OPTION to be able to see bad language. that, my friend, is pretty fckn gay.

@119, saying that you're gay is seeking out torment? yeah, there are lots of inbred hicks out there who don't approve, but just because i feel like expressing myself doesn't mean i'm looking to get beat up. so, if she wears shorts shorts and a halter top, she was asking to get raped? c'mon now...

oh, also, if you don't want your kids experiencing the fact that there are different people out in the world, then you shouldn't really be allowing your kids escape the tiny protective bubble you're trying to desperately to keep them sealed in.

Go Microsoft! Promulgate intolerance and bigotry. That's exaclt what a bunch of spoiled geeks need.

I think this entire situation has been blown out of proportion, it's more a matter of a breach of xbox live policy than discrimination. However, being a gay man myself, the policy seems a tad retardo. They don't want people posting their sexual orientation to avoid offending conservative parents or peeps who hate the queers. Why should anyone care what the hell I am, it's my decision that has nothing to do with them.

I don't understand how playing video games has anything to do with your sexual orientation.

NO ONE CARES

Just keep it to yourself, why is that such a big deal?

Im a straight, republican, male. I have no problem with gay people just as long as they arent trying to ram it up my butthole. In fact, with my job I am talking/working with gay and straight coworkers and/or customers on a regular basis.

When it comes to XBL, i go on there to relax and game with freinds after work. I prefer the dont ask dont tell policy. i come to play a game not find out your sexual preference. if you were to tell me your sexual preference (gay or straight) on XBL i doubt that i would file a complaint to MS. I dont think i would to care much either, at the same time i probably would remind them that this is not a dating website, that we are here to play the game and have fun.

Reading the comments i see about half of you have read the XBL usage policy about listing sexual preference and being banned/ suspended. I see that several poeple have posted about the policy and summed up what the policy says. The other half seem to overlook whats being conveyed about the policy and continue going on about how MS is prejudice against gays.

Microsft is not out on a witch hunt. After microsft receive a predetermined amount(cant remeber the actual number) of filed complaints on the same issue, they take action deemed necessary based on the policy, usually resulting in a temporary ban(account suspension), name change, or in some cases permenant ban.

That being said there a Zillion little prepubescent foul mouthed bigots on XBL. All it takes to have somebodys account looked at by micrsoft is one bigot and his bigot friends all filing complaints about the same problem with the same person.

Im sure the problem comes up with people that mention they are heterosexual aswell. Its just more common to see it happen with gays because there are so many bigots on XBL.

I do agree that the policy is flawed. They should be warned prior to being banned/suspended. Policy is policy,if you break policy you agreed to, you suffer the consequences.

*additional note* she was not permanently banned. she was temporarily banned or in official Microsoft terms "suspended." There is a Microsoft press release somewhere on the internet that give their official explanation. Google it.

TRUE DAT. eff xbox then. Thats lame. And yeah I hate playing with the little boys and the little whiney girls who think they can actually date someone on the opposite side of the country through xbox live. a little girl tells my nephew she "loves" him every night... wtf its xbox shes in NYC and he is in CA. thats also stupid.

YES XBOX LIVE YOU MUST TOLERATE ME!!!!!!!!! GIVE ME THE TOLERANCE I DESERVE BECAUSE I LIKE PEOPLE WITH THE SAME GENDER AS I HAVE AND I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW IT!!!!! KNOW IT AND TOLERATE IT!!!

O.o

just pointin it out. yes it's screwed up you got banned but the little twelve year old who can't shut up still forces himself on my gaming world. but it's also screwed up you feel necessary to put your orientation in your freakin xbox live profile. i don't tell everyone i'm straight. it is not important. nor is it important that you are a lesbian. you aren't offended i'm straight. i'm not offended you're not. but it's not necessary for you to put it in everyone's face either.

I find this repressive and intollerant. :-D

Is anyone even acknowledging the fact that sexual orientation has a whole lot more to it than just sex??

Ra Ra, I'm sure your kids are hearing way worse shit from their friends about their little boners than about 'sex' from someone who is just stating that she is a lesbian.

Microsoft has a legal right to their policy, but its obviously in place to keep everything on the 'straight and narrow'

bah. DX

Thanks GW and everyone else for bashing these homophobic rejects, whom most likely have the sex appeal of a drowning baby. I'm sure their stepfathers wont even play with them anymore.....it would certainly explain their defective mindset. *stole his neighbors xbox just to piss on it*

yo i love thes things i have seen at least 12 of tour pewpew pages cool!!!

i masterbait at least 3 times a day

why do people have SEX anyways itts weard i hav wanted to have sex oh befor i forget have any of you people had sex. Their should be a blog for this site.

@15 They would.

I don't see it as discriminatory. I could care less about someone's sexual orientation while I'm playing games, if you are trying to get laid or something use myspace. There's not a logical reason to mention you're gay in your profile, and if I did have kids I wouldn't need them to just get blasted about it by someone who has a lack of care for other people. If I don't want my child to see it, there should be an option to get rid of it before it becomes a problem, but still enable my child to play a game, so Microsoft should work on that feature to keep everyone happy. BTW, GW, seriously disappointed that this had no funny joke in it whatsoever, my work day is boring without your dino-humping remarks, which if you like dino-dong, does that make you gay or is there another word for it?